> For what it's worth, I walked through the steps for building the minimal war he was looking for on > Saturday, sent him the binary war (5 meg) and posted the steps on the wiki. He's already written a > first custom generator that connects to his ejbs and seems much happier now. He's started to refer > to cocoon as "we"! :) Some of that happened off list, so I thought it worth sending in a quick > update.
Yes, I saw that. I'm only now catching up with the 280 e-mails I had this morning: that's what I get for being off-line all weekend; new baby girl at home, who has time for computers :-) > I do agree, Peter that many people will not see a need right away to strip things out, but a great > point that Robert made is that the flip side of keeping the expanse of possibilities visible to a > new user is that it's quite difficult to figure out what's essential and what's not: especially for > the ejb world where logic and data access are already well encapsulated. Really the biggest issue for me as a new Cocoon users was the sitemap; you get told to look at the sitemap since everything is controlled by the sitemap. Then, once you look at the sitemap you wonder what the heck is ALL this stuff? A WAR packed full of tons of JARS I can ignore, but Cocoon isn't going to do me much good unless I can comprehend the sitemap. The flip side top this is that if you have a minimal sitemap then there is no good way to learn the features of Cocoon incrementally. Once you've got things working with Cocoon what is going to make you look at other Coccon components to see if you can extend things with Cocoon instead of re-inventing the wheel? You spend a bit of time looking, but there is so much to look at it's often easier to just incrementally add to your own code one bit at a time. Next thing you know you've reinvented the Castor transformer (or whatever)... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
