The manual of 1997 and also the help information when running cfs says the for changing ACLs I should user the user id. I did that and created a permanent problem. It seems that the USER NAME should be used. I used a user id, a number, I now user "0" has all permissions. I am not able to get rid of user "0". I tried clearing with the original number that I had used "3500" and with "0" and with "root" but in every case other users go away but "0" always stays in the acl list. How do I get rid of permissions for user "0"? (And why, in the first place would a mis-interpretation of the documentation result in an unfixable state.) Alan Scheinine Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]