I'm working on an exhaustive review of research related to Google Scholar, and 
some studies suggest 40-60% of science and social science items in GS are 
freely available full text. (There is scant research about GS's coverage of 
arts and humanities). 

- (Martín-Martín et al. 2014) found that 40% of a sample of 64,000 items 
published between 1950 and 2013 could be freely accessed via Google Scholar 
(GS). Nih.gov and ResearchGate were the top two full-text providers. 
https://arxiv.org/abs/1410.8464

- Jamali and Nabavi  (2015) found that 61% of a sample of 8,310 items published 
between 2004 and 2014 were freely available through GS. ResearchGate was the 
top full-text source netting 10.5% of full-text sources, followed by 
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (6.5%).  
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Hamid_R_Jamali/publication/280303439_Open_access_and_sources_of_full-text_articles_in_Google_Scholar_in_different_subject_fields/links/55b390ad08ae092e96539996.pdf

- Free full text may be buried by GS's  "versions" feature, because the 
publisher web site is often the dominant version. Clicking on "All X Versions" 
may reveal additional free full text. In a study by Pitol and DeGroote (2014), 
almost 90% of the citations shown were the publisher version, but of these, 
only 14.3% were freely available in full-text on the publisher web site, even 
though 70% percent had at least one free full-text version available through a 
“hidden” GS version.  Note: I think this has been somewhat ameliorated by the 
links in the right-hand column, but perhaps not always... someone should do a 
follow-up study ;)  
http://indigo.uic.edu/bitstream/handle/10027/19417/GS%20article.pdf?sequence=2

When I use Google Scholar, I'm never sure whether to use and cite the OA 
version (seems like a good idea) or rack up full-text downloads for my 
library's usage data by using the link resolver / publisher route (also the 
PDFs are usually nicer). 

Jody
----------------------------------------------
Jody Condit Fagan, PhD
Director of Technology & Professor
Libraries & Educational Technologies
James Madison University


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date:    Wed, 25 Jan 2017 23:30:56 -0500
From:    Jonathan Rochkind <jonat...@dnil.net>
Subject: Re: LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and other interfaces to 
licensed resources

I don't have numbers and this is really just my guess impression, but I'd
be shocked if there weren't a lot more libraries in Google Scholar than in
LibX.  It should be possible to get both numbers from publically available
lists though.

I think the google scholar search is a good one.

The other thought would be letting users somehow direct themselves to their
_own_ link resolvers, just like vendors do. You'd need to either build a
directory of link resolvers for them to choose from, or I have some memory
that there is _some_ relevant OCLC service. I don't recall if it's actually
sufficient or has a decent API, or how extensive it's directory is.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Kevin Hawkins <
kevin.s.hawk...@ultraslavonic.info> wrote:

> I've got two simple questions but first a long statement of background so
> you know why I'm asking.  If you're in a hurry, feel free to skip to the
> questions.
>
> == Background ==
>
> We've got a research group on campus that has built up an annotated
> bibliography of literature in their topic of study over the years, which
> graduate students have carefully organized according to a taxonomy of
> topics.  They are happy to continue to host this bibliography online as a
> searchable database.
>
> However, they've asked us in the library to help them think through what
> it would mean for them to help people reach the full text when available
> online (often through licensed library resources).  Supporting users at our
> institution is easy -- we can prepend the proxy server string to the DOI,
> or query our link resolver, or query our library discovery product.  But
> I'd also like to offer some options for what they could do to help users
> not at our institution.
>
> Including a hyperlinked DOI or other publisher-provided permalink will
> allow users at other institutions who are on campus and using VPN to reach
> the resource directly, assuming their institution subscribes.  So while
> that's an easy solution, it only helps certain users.
>
> In brainstorming with a colleague, we've come up with two other options
> that we might offer to the research group for helping users at other
> institutions reach the full text:
>
> a) They could recommend that users install LibX and then use its "magic
> button" feature to select the citation and search for it through their
> institution's library.
>
> b) They could build queries that go to Google Scholar and suggest that
> Google Scholar users configure "library links" in order to prepend their
> institution's proxy server link or send them to their link resolver.
>
> While I know that Google Scholar's database includes plenty of bare
> citations (without any links to full text), I'm not sure it's big enough to
> actually include the sorts of book chapters and possibly obscure journal
> articles found in this bibliography.  But I'm content to leave that to the
> research group to experiment with.
>
> == The questions ==
>
> 1. Does anyone have a sense of the number of institutions with "editions"
> for LibX versus the number of institutions with "library links" set up in
> Google Scholar?  I can't find full lists on the websites of either, but if
> we know that one is more comprehensive than the other, I'd just as soon
> recommend that.
>
> 2. Are there other options you'd suggest besides LibX and Google Scholar
> (with "library links") for helping people people find a library-licensed
> version of a resource when you don't know what institution the user is at?
>
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts,
>
> Kevin
>

------------------------------

Date:    Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:07:31 -0500
From:    Terry Reese <ree...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and other interfaces to 
licensed resources

I believe Jonathan is thinking about the OCLC Knowledge Base API 
(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.oclc.org_developer_develop_web-2Dservices_worldcat-2Dknowledge-2Dbase-2Dapi.en.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=TfjbRkvBumX8kqxp1tqplQ&m=JwNeS0lFQGWlEGVmCJXcBnyK5y_IkQvlOTYkyTTQtKk&s=xeWGf0F8y9xKvtnXjCzzRryUwKuLzbWQaV8bgv9Knx0&e=
 ) which does provide a way to do openurl for institutions in the resource.  Of 
course, the information in the resource would need to be valid, and that is 
dependent on member libraries keep it up to date, which they may or may not be 
doing depending on if they are depending on a service from OCLC that might 
require OCLC knowing that information.

--tr

-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Rochkind
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 11:31 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and other 
interfaces to licensed resources

I don't have numbers and this is really just my guess impression, but I'd be 
shocked if there weren't a lot more libraries in Google Scholar than in LibX.  
It should be possible to get both numbers from publically available lists 
though.

I think the google scholar search is a good one.

The other thought would be letting users somehow direct themselves to their 
_own_ link resolvers, just like vendors do. You'd need to either build a 
directory of link resolvers for them to choose from, or I have some memory that 
there is _some_ relevant OCLC service. I don't recall if it's actually 
sufficient or has a decent API, or how extensive it's directory is.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Kevin Hawkins < 
kevin.s.hawk...@ultraslavonic.info> wrote:

> I've got two simple questions but first a long statement of background 
> so you know why I'm asking.  If you're in a hurry, feel free to skip 
> to the questions.
>
> == Background ==
>
> We've got a research group on campus that has built up an annotated 
> bibliography of literature in their topic of study over the years, 
> which graduate students have carefully organized according to a 
> taxonomy of topics.  They are happy to continue to host this 
> bibliography online as a searchable database.
>
> However, they've asked us in the library to help them think through 
> what it would mean for them to help people reach the full text when 
> available online (often through licensed library resources).  
> Supporting users at our institution is easy -- we can prepend the 
> proxy server string to the DOI, or query our link resolver, or query 
> our library discovery product.  But I'd also like to offer some 
> options for what they could do to help users not at our institution.
>
> Including a hyperlinked DOI or other publisher-provided permalink will 
> allow users at other institutions who are on campus and using VPN to 
> reach the resource directly, assuming their institution subscribes.  
> So while that's an easy solution, it only helps certain users.
>
> In brainstorming with a colleague, we've come up with two other 
> options that we might offer to the research group for helping users at 
> other institutions reach the full text:
>
> a) They could recommend that users install LibX and then use its 
> "magic button" feature to select the citation and search for it 
> through their institution's library.
>
> b) They could build queries that go to Google Scholar and suggest that 
> Google Scholar users configure "library links" in order to prepend 
> their institution's proxy server link or send them to their link resolver.
>
> While I know that Google Scholar's database includes plenty of bare 
> citations (without any links to full text), I'm not sure it's big 
> enough to actually include the sorts of book chapters and possibly 
> obscure journal articles found in this bibliography.  But I'm content 
> to leave that to the research group to experiment with.
>
> == The questions ==
>
> 1. Does anyone have a sense of the number of institutions with "editions"
> for LibX versus the number of institutions with "library links" set up 
> in Google Scholar?  I can't find full lists on the websites of either, 
> but if we know that one is more comprehensive than the other, I'd just 
> as soon recommend that.
>
> 2. Are there other options you'd suggest besides LibX and Google 
> Scholar (with "library links") for helping people people find a 
> library-licensed version of a resource when you don't know what institution 
> the user is at?
>
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts,
>
> Kevin
>

------------------------------

Date:    Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:18:49 -0500
From:    Brett <brett.l.willi...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and other interfaces to 
licensed resources

LibX depends on having someone at the library actively update it in
addition to the normal work of keeping an Link Resolver up and running.

Google Scholar's Library Links feature works directly with the link
resolver, and doesn't require extra work.

I would suggest directing users to Google Scholar or just providing DOI
links.

You can structure search links that will search Google Scholar using the
DOI information, so all of this can be done with a script.

It's a pity that we have to depend on Google like this, but over my time as
a Systems Librarian I look for the solution that requires the fewest steps.


Regards,

Brett

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Kevin Hawkins <
kevin.s.hawk...@ultraslavonic.info> wrote:

> I've got two simple questions but first a long statement of background so
> you know why I'm asking.  If you're in a hurry, feel free to skip to the
> questions.
>
> == Background ==
>
> We've got a research group on campus that has built up an annotated
> bibliography of literature in their topic of study over the years, which
> graduate students have carefully organized according to a taxonomy of
> topics.  They are happy to continue to host this bibliography online as a
> searchable database.
>
> However, they've asked us in the library to help them think through what
> it would mean for them to help people reach the full text when available
> online (often through licensed library resources).  Supporting users at our
> institution is easy -- we can prepend the proxy server string to the DOI,
> or query our link resolver, or query our library discovery product.  But
> I'd also like to offer some options for what they could do to help users
> not at our institution.
>
> Including a hyperlinked DOI or other publisher-provided permalink will
> allow users at other institutions who are on campus and using VPN to reach
> the resource directly, assuming their institution subscribes.  So while
> that's an easy solution, it only helps certain users.
>
> In brainstorming with a colleague, we've come up with two other options
> that we might offer to the research group for helping users at other
> institutions reach the full text:
>
> a) They could recommend that users install LibX and then use its "magic
> button" feature to select the citation and search for it through their
> institution's library.
>
> b) They could build queries that go to Google Scholar and suggest that
> Google Scholar users configure "library links" in order to prepend their
> institution's proxy server link or send them to their link resolver.
>
> While I know that Google Scholar's database includes plenty of bare
> citations (without any links to full text), I'm not sure it's big enough to
> actually include the sorts of book chapters and possibly obscure journal
> articles found in this bibliography.  But I'm content to leave that to the
> research group to experiment with.
>
> == The questions ==
>
> 1. Does anyone have a sense of the number of institutions with "editions"
> for LibX versus the number of institutions with "library links" set up in
> Google Scholar?  I can't find full lists on the websites of either, but if
> we know that one is more comprehensive than the other, I'd just as soon
> recommend that.
>
> 2. Are there other options you'd suggest besides LibX and Google Scholar
> (with "library links") for helping people people find a library-licensed
> version of a resource when you don't know what institution the user is at?
>
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts,
>
> Kevin
>

------------------------------

Date:    Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:06:12 +0000
From:    "Haefele, Chad Mark" <chaef...@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and other interfaces to 
licensed resources

I realize I’m not directly answering the LibX vs Scholar question, but this all 
sounded very familiar to me:

A department on campus here is doing a similar project of putting a massive 
bibliography online - we were involved in some of the early phases a couple 
years ago. They have a large bibliography of resources on a webpage, which is 
built on exports of data from Zotero. It’s behind a login while in draft mode, 
so I can’t link directly to it. But see attached screenshot for an example.

Each article has a “Search locally” button associated with it. Clicking it goes 
to a link like this one:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__worldcatlibraries.org_registry_gateway-3Fctx-5Fver-3DZ39.88-2D2004-26atitle-3DCollaboration-252C-2520Resistance-2520and-2520Reform-253A-2520Experiences-2520and-2520Historiographies-2520of-2520the-2520Napoleonic-2520Wars-2520in-2520Central-2520Europe-26title-3DCentral-2520European-2520History-26stitle-3DCollaboration-252C-2520Resistance-2520and-2520Reform-26date-3D2006-26volume-3D39-26issue-3D4-26spage-3D547-26epage-3D579-26aulast-3DAaslestad-26aufirst-3DKatherine-26au-3DHagemann-252C-2520Karen-26sid-3DBiblio-253ABibliography&d=CwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=TfjbRkvBumX8kqxp1tqplQ&m=JwNeS0lFQGWlEGVmCJXcBnyK5y_IkQvlOTYkyTTQtKk&s=Putz-qY6wWngnA7soHWzFQsABmQD34yX4ldJdpKW2cY&e=
  

This is where my memory of how we set it up gets fuzzy, but I think if you’re 
in the IP range of a resolver that Worldcat/OCLC knows about, you’ll get links 
to check for the article through it. The weakness is that if you’re not in one 
of those IP ranges, you’re at a dead end.

-Chad


---
Chad Haefele
Interim Head of User Experience
UNC Chapel Hill Libraries
chaef...@email.unc.edu
919-962-3702


On 1/26/17, 8:07 AM, "Code for Libraries on behalf of Terry Reese" 
<CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG on behalf of ree...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I believe Jonathan is thinking about the OCLC Knowledge Base API 
(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.oclc.org_developer_develop_web-2Dservices_worldcat-2Dknowledge-2Dbase-2Dapi.en.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=TfjbRkvBumX8kqxp1tqplQ&m=JwNeS0lFQGWlEGVmCJXcBnyK5y_IkQvlOTYkyTTQtKk&s=xeWGf0F8y9xKvtnXjCzzRryUwKuLzbWQaV8bgv9Knx0&e=
 ) which does provide a way to do openurl for institutions in the resource.  Of 
course, the information in the resource would need to be valid, and that is 
dependent on member libraries keep it up to date, which they may or may not be 
doing depending on if they are depending on a service from OCLC that might 
require OCLC knowing that information.
    
    --tr
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Rochkind
    Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 11:31 PM
    To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
    Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and 
other interfaces to licensed resources
    
    I don't have numbers and this is really just my guess impression, but I'd 
be shocked if there weren't a lot more libraries in Google Scholar than in 
LibX.  It should be possible to get both numbers from publically available 
lists though.
    
    I think the google scholar search is a good one.
    
    The other thought would be letting users somehow direct themselves to their 
_own_ link resolvers, just like vendors do. You'd need to either build a 
directory of link resolvers for them to choose from, or I have some memory that 
there is _some_ relevant OCLC service. I don't recall if it's actually 
sufficient or has a decent API, or how extensive it's directory is.
    
    On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Kevin Hawkins < 
kevin.s.hawk...@ultraslavonic.info> wrote:
    
    > I've got two simple questions but first a long statement of background 
    > so you know why I'm asking.  If you're in a hurry, feel free to skip 
    > to the questions.
    >
    > == Background ==
    >
    > We've got a research group on campus that has built up an annotated 
    > bibliography of literature in their topic of study over the years, 
    > which graduate students have carefully organized according to a 
    > taxonomy of topics.  They are happy to continue to host this 
    > bibliography online as a searchable database.
    >
    > However, they've asked us in the library to help them think through 
    > what it would mean for them to help people reach the full text when 
    > available online (often through licensed library resources).  
    > Supporting users at our institution is easy -- we can prepend the 
    > proxy server string to the DOI, or query our link resolver, or query 
    > our library discovery product.  But I'd also like to offer some 
    > options for what they could do to help users not at our institution.
    >
    > Including a hyperlinked DOI or other publisher-provided permalink will 
    > allow users at other institutions who are on campus and using VPN to 
    > reach the resource directly, assuming their institution subscribes.  
    > So while that's an easy solution, it only helps certain users.
    >
    > In brainstorming with a colleague, we've come up with two other 
    > options that we might offer to the research group for helping users at 
    > other institutions reach the full text:
    >
    > a) They could recommend that users install LibX and then use its 
    > "magic button" feature to select the citation and search for it 
    > through their institution's library.
    >
    > b) They could build queries that go to Google Scholar and suggest that 
    > Google Scholar users configure "library links" in order to prepend 
    > their institution's proxy server link or send them to their link resolver.
    >
    > While I know that Google Scholar's database includes plenty of bare 
    > citations (without any links to full text), I'm not sure it's big 
    > enough to actually include the sorts of book chapters and possibly 
    > obscure journal articles found in this bibliography.  But I'm content 
    > to leave that to the research group to experiment with.
    >
    > == The questions ==
    >
    > 1. Does anyone have a sense of the number of institutions with "editions"
    > for LibX versus the number of institutions with "library links" set up 
    > in Google Scholar?  I can't find full lists on the websites of either, 
    > but if we know that one is more comprehensive than the other, I'd just 
    > as soon recommend that.
    >
    > 2. Are there other options you'd suggest besides LibX and Google 
    > Scholar (with "library links") for helping people people find a 
    > library-licensed version of a resource when you don't know what 
institution the user is at?
    >
    > Thanks in advance for your thoughts,
    >
    > Kevin
    >
    

------------------------------

Date:    Thu, 26 Jan 2017 10:30:38 -0500
From:    Jonathan Rochkind <jonat...@dnil.net>
Subject: Re: LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and other interfaces to 
licensed resources

Yeah, the problem with the OCLC auto-IP-based gateway, as you say, is that
it only works for people in IP address ranges registered to their
university.

Even when just focusing on _our own_ users, we realized that _most_ of our
patron hours were spent "off campus". And decided that solutions that
relied on recognized IP addresses were unacceptable, our goal was always to
make the best solution we could for off-campus users too.

So I think the "best" (within existing environment) solution would  be to
maybe take the IP-address-identified link resolver as a _default_, but
always allow (with good UI) the user to select another institution from the
directory as a preference. I'm not sure if OCLC APIs support this (but they
_ought_ to, it's the right use case).

Note that I think this solution is what Google Scholar itself does --
connect you to IP-address-identified link resolver as a default, but allow
you to set a preference.

I also think that simply linking the user to a Google search on relevant
metadata (definitely including DOI if present) is a fine compromise
solution -- on it's own it's a lot of value for relatively little
development work. I think it will _often_ get the user to the right place.
  (In an ideal world, doing this link-resolver-preference-based solution
would be just as little work.... but I'm not sure how close we are to
that).

Jonathan

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Haefele, Chad Mark <chaef...@email.unc.edu>
wrote:

> I realize I’m not directly answering the LibX vs Scholar question, but
> this all sounded very familiar to me:
>
> A department on campus here is doing a similar project of putting a
> massive bibliography online - we were involved in some of the early phases
> a couple years ago. They have a large bibliography of resources on a
> webpage, which is built on exports of data from Zotero. It’s behind a login
> while in draft mode, so I can’t link directly to it. But see attached
> screenshot for an example.
>
> Each article has a “Search locally” button associated with it. Clicking it
> goes to a link like this one:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__worldcatlibraries.org_registry_gateway-3Fctx-5Fver-3DZ39&d=CwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=TfjbRkvBumX8kqxp1tqplQ&m=JwNeS0lFQGWlEGVmCJXcBnyK5y_IkQvlOTYkyTTQtKk&s=ds-2r9soZRPvR7qyrAhRnBo_0jekOOogZQeBpeJgjhc&e=
>  .
> 88-2004&atitle=Collaboration%2C%20Resistance%20and%
> 20Reform%3A%20Experiences%20and%20Historiographies%20of%
> 20the%20Napoleonic%20Wars%20in%20Central%20Europe&title=
> Central%20European%20History&stitle=Collaboration%2C%
> 20Resistance%20and%20Reform&date=2006&volume=39&issue=4&
> spage=547&epage=579&aulast=Aaslestad&aufirst=Katherine&
> au=Hagemann%2C%20Karen&sid=Biblio%3ABibliography
>
> This is where my memory of how we set it up gets fuzzy, but I think if
> you’re in the IP range of a resolver that Worldcat/OCLC knows about, you’ll
> get links to check for the article through it. The weakness is that if
> you’re not in one of those IP ranges, you’re at a dead end.
>
> -Chad
>
>
> ---
> Chad Haefele
> Interim Head of User Experience
> UNC Chapel Hill Libraries
> chaef...@email.unc.edu
> 919-962-3702
>
>
> On 1/26/17, 8:07 AM, "Code for Libraries on behalf of Terry Reese" <
> CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG on behalf of ree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     I believe Jonathan is thinking about the OCLC Knowledge Base API (
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.oclc.org_developer_develop_web-2Dservices_worldcat-2Dknowledge-2D&d=CwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=TfjbRkvBumX8kqxp1tqplQ&m=JwNeS0lFQGWlEGVmCJXcBnyK5y_IkQvlOTYkyTTQtKk&s=hlB-AntsuwNHgnzG3jB6KvHBR4GjUcGsZV2GEP_KN3E&e=
>  
> base-api.en.html) which does provide a way to do openurl for institutions
> in the resource.  Of course, the information in the resource would need to
> be valid, and that is dependent on member libraries keep it up to date,
> which they may or may not be doing depending on if they are depending on a
> service from OCLC that might require OCLC knowing that information.
>
>     --tr
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf
> Of Jonathan Rochkind
>     Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 11:31 PM
>     To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
>     Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and
> other interfaces to licensed resources
>
>     I don't have numbers and this is really just my guess impression, but
> I'd be shocked if there weren't a lot more libraries in Google Scholar than
> in LibX.  It should be possible to get both numbers from publically
> available lists though.
>
>     I think the google scholar search is a good one.
>
>     The other thought would be letting users somehow direct themselves to
> their _own_ link resolvers, just like vendors do. You'd need to either
> build a directory of link resolvers for them to choose from, or I have some
> memory that there is _some_ relevant OCLC service. I don't recall if it's
> actually sufficient or has a decent API, or how extensive it's directory is.
>
>     On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Kevin Hawkins <
> kevin.s.hawk...@ultraslavonic.info> wrote:
>
>     > I've got two simple questions but first a long statement of
> background
>     > so you know why I'm asking.  If you're in a hurry, feel free to skip
>     > to the questions.
>     >
>     > == Background ==
>     >
>     > We've got a research group on campus that has built up an annotated
>     > bibliography of literature in their topic of study over the years,
>     > which graduate students have carefully organized according to a
>     > taxonomy of topics.  They are happy to continue to host this
>     > bibliography online as a searchable database.
>     >
>     > However, they've asked us in the library to help them think through
>     > what it would mean for them to help people reach the full text when
>     > available online (often through licensed library resources).
>     > Supporting users at our institution is easy -- we can prepend the
>     > proxy server string to the DOI, or query our link resolver, or query
>     > our library discovery product.  But I'd also like to offer some
>     > options for what they could do to help users not at our institution.
>     >
>     > Including a hyperlinked DOI or other publisher-provided permalink
> will
>     > allow users at other institutions who are on campus and using VPN to
>     > reach the resource directly, assuming their institution subscribes.
>     > So while that's an easy solution, it only helps certain users.
>     >
>     > In brainstorming with a colleague, we've come up with two other
>     > options that we might offer to the research group for helping users
> at
>     > other institutions reach the full text:
>     >
>     > a) They could recommend that users install LibX and then use its
>     > "magic button" feature to select the citation and search for it
>     > through their institution's library.
>     >
>     > b) They could build queries that go to Google Scholar and suggest
> that
>     > Google Scholar users configure "library links" in order to prepend
>     > their institution's proxy server link or send them to their link
> resolver.
>     >
>     > While I know that Google Scholar's database includes plenty of bare
>     > citations (without any links to full text), I'm not sure it's big
>     > enough to actually include the sorts of book chapters and possibly
>     > obscure journal articles found in this bibliography.  But I'm content
>     > to leave that to the research group to experiment with.
>     >
>     > == The questions ==
>     >
>     > 1. Does anyone have a sense of the number of institutions with
> "editions"
>     > for LibX versus the number of institutions with "library links" set
> up
>     > in Google Scholar?  I can't find full lists on the websites of
> either,
>     > but if we know that one is more comprehensive than the other, I'd
> just
>     > as soon recommend that.
>     >
>     > 2. Are there other options you'd suggest besides LibX and Google
>     > Scholar (with "library links") for helping people people find a
>     > library-licensed version of a resource when you don't know what
> institution the user is at?
>     >
>     > Thanks in advance for your thoughts,
>     >
>     > Kevin
>     >
>
>
>

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Date:    Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:28:48 +0000
From:    "Fitchett, Deborah" <deborah.fitch...@lincoln.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and other interfaces to 
licensed resources

I'd consider including a call to oadoi.org to see if each one has an open 
access version available, and linking to that in addition to any link to 
paywalled content.

Deborah

-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Kevin 
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2017 4:16 p.m.
To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
Subject: [CODE4LIB] LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and other 
interfaces to licensed resources

I've got two simple questions but first a long statement of background so you 
know why I'm asking.  If you're in a hurry, feel free to skip to the questions.

== Background ==

We've got a research group on campus that has built up an annotated 
bibliography of literature in their topic of study over the years, which 
graduate students have carefully organized according to a taxonomy of topics.  
They are happy to continue to host this bibliography online as a searchable 
database.

However, they've asked us in the library to help them think through what it 
would mean for them to help people reach the full text when available online 
(often through licensed library resources).  Supporting users at our 
institution is easy -- we can prepend the proxy server string to the DOI, or 
query our link resolver, or query our library discovery product.
  But I'd also like to offer some options for what they could do to help users 
not at our institution.

Including a hyperlinked DOI or other publisher-provided permalink will allow 
users at other institutions who are on campus and using VPN to reach the 
resource directly, assuming their institution subscribes.  So while that's an 
easy solution, it only helps certain users.

In brainstorming with a colleague, we've come up with two other options that we 
might offer to the research group for helping users at other institutions reach 
the full text:

a) They could recommend that users install LibX and then use its "magic button" 
feature to select the citation and search for it through their institution's 
library.

b) They could build queries that go to Google Scholar and suggest that Google 
Scholar users configure "library links" in order to prepend their institution's 
proxy server link or send them to their link resolver.

While I know that Google Scholar's database includes plenty of bare citations 
(without any links to full text), I'm not sure it's big enough to actually 
include the sorts of book chapters and possibly obscure journal articles found 
in this bibliography.  But I'm content to leave that to the research group to 
experiment with.

== The questions ==

1. Does anyone have a sense of the number of institutions with "editions" for 
LibX versus the number of institutions with "library links" set up in Google 
Scholar?  I can't find full lists on the websites of either, but if we know 
that one is more comprehensive than the other, I'd just as soon recommend that.

2. Are there other options you'd suggest besides LibX and Google Scholar (with 
"library links") for helping people people find a library-licensed version of a 
resource when you don't know what institution the user is at?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts,

Kevin

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Date:    Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:50:37 -0500
From:    Jonathan Rochkind <jonat...@dnil.net>
Subject: Re: LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and other interfaces to 
licensed resources

Wow, I didn't even know about oaidc.org, that's a great service, thanks
Deborah!

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Fitchett, Deborah <
deborah.fitch...@lincoln.ac.nz> wrote:

> I'd consider including a call to oadoi.org to see if each one has an open
> access version available, and linking to that in addition to any link to
> paywalled content.
>
> Deborah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Kevin Hawkins
> Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2017 4:16 p.m.
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] LibX, Google Scholar with "library links", and other
> interfaces to licensed resources
>
> I've got two simple questions but first a long statement of background so
> you know why I'm asking.  If you're in a hurry, feel free to skip to the
> questions.
>
> == Background ==
>
> We've got a research group on campus that has built up an annotated
> bibliography of literature in their topic of study over the years, which
> graduate students have carefully organized according to a taxonomy of
> topics.  They are happy to continue to host this bibliography online as a
> searchable database.
>
> However, they've asked us in the library to help them think through what
> it would mean for them to help people reach the full text when available
> online (often through licensed library resources).  Supporting users at our
> institution is easy -- we can prepend the proxy server string to the DOI,
> or query our link resolver, or query our library discovery product.
>   But I'd also like to offer some options for what they could do to help
> users not at our institution.
>
> Including a hyperlinked DOI or other publisher-provided permalink will
> allow users at other institutions who are on campus and using VPN to reach
> the resource directly, assuming their institution subscribes.  So while
> that's an easy solution, it only helps certain users.
>
> In brainstorming with a colleague, we've come up with two other options
> that we might offer to the research group for helping users at other
> institutions reach the full text:
>
> a) They could recommend that users install LibX and then use its "magic
> button" feature to select the citation and search for it through their
> institution's library.
>
> b) They could build queries that go to Google Scholar and suggest that
> Google Scholar users configure "library links" in order to prepend their
> institution's proxy server link or send them to their link resolver.
>
> While I know that Google Scholar's database includes plenty of bare
> citations (without any links to full text), I'm not sure it's big enough to
> actually include the sorts of book chapters and possibly obscure journal
> articles found in this bibliography.  But I'm content to leave that to the
> research group to experiment with.
>
> == The questions ==
>
> 1. Does anyone have a sense of the number of institutions with "editions"
> for LibX versus the number of institutions with "library links" set up in
> Google Scholar?  I can't find full lists on the websites of either, but if
> we know that one is more comprehensive than the other, I'd just as soon
> recommend that.
>
> 2. Are there other options you'd suggest besides LibX and Google Scholar
> (with "library links") for helping people people find a library-licensed
> version of a resource when you don't know what institution the user is at?
>
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts,
>
> Kevin
>

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