>Actually, this is one of a number of links out there (esp. regarding the
>Arriba Soft case) suggesting that fair use, regarding thumbnail images,
>is quite often the applicable standard, the key (often) being that there
>is no "Effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the
>copyrighted work".
>

I'm not trying to argue against the heart of your argument, just perhaps 
suggesting that we should be careful about terminology.  Fair use of something 
is not the same as saying the source is not copyrightable.  It's an important 
distinction to keep.  It is, after all, how licenses are enforced.  It's fair 
use for me to cite a passage.  I may even be able to reproduce the whole work 
under the conditions of a license.  This does not immediately propagate 
downstream to those who might copy my work.

>It's just depressing to me that the society, in the shadow of DCMA, RIAA
>action, etc. has essentially cowered in the face of these copyright
>issues, and I would go so far as to say the we librarians often abrogate
>our duty. I mean it is our job to *create* access to information
>not *prevent* it. Right? Geez, nothing like the free flow of information
>getting privatized. My aim is just to promote the idea of assuming that
>"information wants to be free" and proceed under that assumption unless
>there is clear and obvious proof otherwise.
>

I agree that many have let fear blind themselves or make themselves hesitate 
from providing certain services.  But at the same time there still is a lot 
that is undefined or tenuous.  It doesn't help to cite material that talks 
about creating thumbnails as fair use and then take another step and claim 
thumbnails are not copyrightable.  If you're going to make that next step, it 
would be nice to see material supporting it.

I agree we have a responsibility to our users and I do feel that universities 
and other academic organizations should be fighting even on legal fronts to 
protect reasonable use (such as using thumbnails and automatically derived 
metadata).  However, as reasonable individuals we also do have to evaluate the 
best ways to do this and likelihood of legal ramifications and their costs.  If 
you believe in this there are plenty of ways as well as possible civil 
disobedience.  You can lobby congress and the copyright office to establish 
laws and policies to protect this use.  Certainly, risking an institution's 
financial and legal status this day and age should be carefully considered.

>Looked at another way: a thumbnail is just a bit of "visual" metadata,
>and you cannot copyright metadata.

At what point does something become a thumbnail?  50%?  75%? 100% but with poor 
resolution?  If it's cropped?   Missing colors?  I would also point out there 
are many who include the work itself as metadata, in which case it most 
certainly falls under copyright.  Certain visualizations may also fall into a 
gray area, regardless if the source is text or an image.

The cases seem to to me to point to two important poitns.  First, Google is not 
responsible when it creates fair use thumbnails of someone else who has already 
infringed.  The infringement only applies to the original person who copied the 
image.  I'm not sure how this compares to other case law at this point.  I'm 
also not sure how it would deal with a service that refused to take down the 
derived thumbnail if the original image is illegal or violating copyright.

Second, if someone used Google's service to profit on their own end (took the 
images and then sold them) the judge might regard that as not fair use.

But again, I'm not a lawyer.  So I'm going to stop thinking about this 
particular issue right now.

Jon Gorman

Reply via email to