DIALOG was still being taught at the library school I attended in 2008-2011, and from what I hear still remains.
+1 on the comment about this awesome survey class. Doreva Belfiore, MSLIS Temple University Libraries Philadelphia, PA On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Bohyun Kim <k...@fiu.edu> wrote: > Amen to this! I suspect DIALOG is still being taught to believe it or > not... > > > "By the way, this looks like an awesome survey class. The headaches it > would have saved me if someone had covered this stuff 10 years ago when I > was in school, instead of teaching me how to search DIALOG!" > > > > --- > Bohyun Kim, MA, MSLIS > Digital Access Librarian > bohyun....@fiu.edu > 305-348-1471 > Medical Library, College of Medicine > Florida International University > http://medlib.fiu.edu > http://medlib.fiu.edu/m (Mobile) > > ________________________________________ > From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Joseph > Montibello [joseph.montibe...@dartmouth.edu] > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:56 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommendations for a teaching OPAC? > > Hi, > > When you talk about the OPAC, do you want them to be working with a full > ILS or really just the front-end piece? If it's just the patron-facing > search, you could probably do worse than to install Blacklight. It > probably doesn't really meet the "simple" criteria - there's a lot more to > it than I could talk about. But getting it out of the box, turned on, and > searching against a few records is something that you and students could > probably manage. I've got a year of unix/ssh/command line experience and > with a bit of mucking about, googling, and asking for help I was able to > get a local (non-production) instance up and running, so it's definitely > easy enough. > > By the way, this looks like an awesome survey class. The headaches it > would have saved me if someone had covered this stuff 10 years ago when I > was in school, instead of teaching me how to search DIALOG! > > Joe Montibello, MLIS > Library Systems Manager > Dartmouth College Library > 603.646.9394 > joseph.montibe...@dartmouth.edu > > > > > > > On 8/2/12 1:54 PM, "David E Mussulman" <mussu...@illinois.edu> wrote: > > >Hi everyone, > > > >I teach an intro to IT survey class for the LIS school at Illinois. The > >one-major-topic-a-week syllabus doesn't really give us time to deep dive > >into IT topics, but it lets us explore them and give contextual > >understanding to the building block pieces. Ideally, every topic has > >some sort of hands-on exercise that gives real life experience with the > >concepts/technologies. The exercises are usually independent, but I've > >been kicking around the idea of using a simple OSS OPAC to teach > >different elements of the class as a semester-long big cascading lesson. > >Examples: > > > >Lesson: Linux, ssh and the command shell > >Exercise: Installing Ubuntu, getting comfortable with that environment > > > >Lesson: OSS and software ecosystems > >Exercise: Get a LAMP stack setup on the OS, install the OPAC > > > >Lesson: Interfaces, usability, accessibility > >Exercise: Use the OPAC, populate it with some data, assess its usability > > > >Lesson: HTML/CSS > >Exercise: Use CSS to skin the OPAC, customize the HTML for your "site" > > > >Lesson: Data management, search, IR > >Exercise: See if we can peak under the hood about how the OPAC's search > >works > > > >Lesson: Interfaces to data: databases, XML, SQL > >Exercise: Use the OPAC as an living example to work with those interfaces > > > >Lesson: Cloud computing, 2.0/social network integration > >Exercise: Not sure yet... > > > >This idea primarily came from trying to get some simple XML/SQL > >exercises that didn't suck (the setup for these environments is almost > >as involved as any exercises itself), and the fact the previous classes > >really liked dissecting the nextgen catalogs we've explored from a > >software selection and 2.0 integration perspective. > > > >But here's the catch, and this is why I need your experience, Code4Lib. > >I'm not an OPAC admin, and have no experience running or hacking them. > >I'm looking for recommendations for software that would help me with the > >goals above, without being too difficult or overwhelming for the > >students or me. :) It doesn't have to be a good/complete OPAC, > >necessarily -- just a teaching tool to give experience with the lessons > >above. > > > >Should I be looking at koha and evergreen and the big ones, or are there > >small projects that you're aware of that might be better? My preference > >would be MySQL and PHP, but as long as the supplemental tools and > >documentation are good, I'm flexible. For example, if there are tools as > >good as phpmyadmin to browse postgresql, I don't think it really > >matters. I'm willing to sacrifice "good" for "simple and transparent". I > >don't think Rails is a good place to go with this because I don't want > >to teach MVC/Rails. (Maybe I'm wrong?) > > > >Oh, and I'd also like a small project with great documentation, but I've > >been around OSS long enough to know that's a diamond in the rough. > >Sadly, the reality is (for most of these exercises) if the project > >documentation is lacking, I'll have to write that as well. > > > >What are your thoughts on this endeavor? Any recommendations? Thanks! > > > >Dave > > > >PS. This is not a job ad posting. ;) > > >