Roy, the question that I have is, as I say below, about DISCOVERABILITY of URIs, not intellectual property issues. It's great that there are lots of URIs for useful things out in the world, but they don't jump into your data store on their own through some kind of magic. To me, the big problem today is that of populating legacy data with useful identifiers. I know that some folks have worked at making connections between subject headings in their catalog and the URIs available through id.loc.gov - and as I recall, it turns out to be fairly frustrating. It seems to be that the solution to this is that providers of URIs and users of URIs have to both make an effort to meet half-way, or at a mutally convenient location. It simply is not enough to say: "Hey, look! I've got all of these URIs. Good luck!" So let's talk about how we make that connection.

kc

On 4/30/14, 1:17 PM, Roy Tennant wrote:
Also, this:

"OCLC identifiers, and Linked Data URIs, are always in the public domain.
Independent of the data and/or information content (which may be subject to
individual licensing terms open or otherwise) that they identify, or link
to, OCLC identifiers (e.g. OCLC Numbers, VIAF IDs, or WorldCat Work URIs)
can be treated as if they are in the public domain and can be included in
any data exposure mechanism or activity as public domain data."

http://www.oclc.org/developer/develop/linked-data.en.html

Roy


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Richard Wallis <
richard.wal...@dataliberate.com> wrote:

To unpack the several questions lurking in Karen’s question.

As to being able to use the WorldCat Works data/identifiers there is no
difference between a or b - it is ODC-BY licensed data.

Getting a Work URI may be easier for a) as they should be able to identify
the OCLC Number and hence use the linked data from it’s URI <
http://worldcat.org/oclc/{ocn}> to pick up the link to it’s work.

Tools such as xISBN <http://xisbn.worldcat.org/xisbnadmin/doc/api.htm> can
step you towards identifier lookups and are openly available for low volume
usage.

Citation lookup is more a bib lookup feature, that you could get an OCLC
Number from. One of colleagues may be helpful on the particulars of this.

Apologies for being WorldCat specific, but Karen did ask.

~Richard.


On 30 April 2014 17:15, Karen Coyle <li...@kcoyle.net> wrote:

My question has to do with discoverability. Let's say that I have a
bibliographic database and I want to add the OCLC work identifiers to it.
Obviously I don't want to do it by hand. I might have ISBNs, but in some
cases I will have a regular author/title-type citation.

and let's say that I am asking this for two different institutions:
a) is an OCLC member institution
b) is not

Thanks,
kc




On 4/30/14, 8:47 AM, Dan Scott wrote:

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Roy Tennant <roytenn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

This has now instead become a reasonable recommendation
concerning ODC-BY licensing [3] but the confusion and uncertainty
about which records an OCLC member may redistribute remains.

[3] http://www.oclc.org/news/releases/2012/201248.en.html

Allow me to try to put this confusion and uncertainty to rest once and
for
all:

ALL THE THINGS. ALL.

At least as far as we are concerned. I think it's well past time to put
the
past in the past.

That's great, Roy. That's a *lot* simpler than parsing the
recommendations, WCRR, community norms, and such at [A, B] :)

  Meanwhile, we have just put nearly 200 million works records up as
linked
open data. [1], [2], [3]. If that doesn't rock the library open linked
data
world, then no one is paying attention.
Roy

[1] http://oclc.org/en-US/news/releases/2014/201414dublin.html
[2]
http://dataliberate.com/2014/04/worldcat-works-197-million-
nuggets-of-linked-data/
[3] http://hangingtogether.org/?p=3811

Yes, that is really awesome. But Laura was asking about barriers to
open metadata, so damn you for going off-topic with PR around a lack
of barriers to some metadata (which, for those who have not looked
yet, have a nice ODC-BY licensing statement at the bottom of a given
Works page) :)

A. http://oclc.org/worldcat/community/record-use.en.html
B. http://oclc.org/worldcat/community/record-use/data-
licensing/questions.en.html

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