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Aleksey Yeschenko commented on CASSANDRA-7507:
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Thanks for clarifying. I retract 1 and 2 then - go ahead (:
> OOM creates unreliable state - die instantly better
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> Key: CASSANDRA-7507
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-7507
> Project: Cassandra
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Reporter: Karl Mueller
> Assignee: Joshua McKenzie
> Priority: Minor
> Fix For: 2.1.1
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> Attachments: 7507_v1.txt, 7507_v2.txt, 7507_v3_build.txt,
> 7507_v3_java.txt, exceptionHandlingResults.txt, findSwallowedExceptions.py
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> I had a cassandra node run OOM. My heap had enough headroom, there was just
> something which either was a bug or some unfortunate amount of short-term
> memory utilization. This resulted in the following error:
> WARN [StorageServiceShutdownHook] 2014-06-30 09:38:38,251 StorageProxy.java
> (line 1713) Some hints were not written before shutdown. This is not
> supposed to happen. You should (a) run repair, and (b) file a bug report
> There are no other messages of relevance besides the OOM error about 90
> minutes earlier.
> My (limited) understanding of the JVM and Cassandra says that when it goes
> OOM, it will attempt to signal cassandra to shut down "cleanly". The problem,
> in my view, is that with an OOM situation, nothing is guaranteed anymore. I
> believe it's impossible to reliably "cleanly shut down" at this point, and
> therefore it's wrong to even try.
> Yes, ideally things could be written out, flushed to disk, memory messages
> written, other nodes notified, etc. but why is there any reason to believe
> any of those steps could happen? Would happen? Couldn't bad data be written
> at this point to disk rather than good data? Some network messages delivered,
> but not others?
> I think Cassandra should have the option to (and possibly default) to kill
> itself immediately upon the OOM condition happening in a hard way, and not
> rely on the java-based clean shutdown process. Cassandra already handles
> recovery from unclean shutdown, and it's not a big deal. My node, for
> example, kept in a sort-of alive state for 90 minutes where who knows what it
> was doing or not doing.
> I don't know enough about the JVM and options for it to know the best exact
> implementation of "die instantly on OOM", but it should be something that's
> possible either with some flags or a C library (which doesn't rely on java
> memory to do something which it may not be able to get!)
> Short version: a kill -9 of all C* processes in that instance without needing
> more java memory, when OOM is raised
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