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Ekaterina Dimitrova commented on CASSANDRA-16063:
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As we talked on Slack, the startup checks happen after the 
[CommitLog.instance.start()|#L214] (where a new empty segment is created) but 
before processing the old ones. So with this patch we had to get rid of the 
empty segment.

As suggested by you, I will double check today why as part of CASSANDRA-15295, 
[CommitLog.instance.start()|#L214] was set before the startup checks and not 
after them and try to work it out in favor of getting rid of the flag and 
guarantee downgrade is gonna be seamless for the user in all cases.

 

> Fix user experience when upgrading to 4.0 with compact tables
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-16063
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16063
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Legacy/CQL
>            Reporter: Sylvain Lebresne
>            Assignee: Ekaterina Dimitrova
>            Priority: Normal
>             Fix For: 4.0-beta
>
>
> The code to handle compact tables has been removed from 4.0, and the intended 
> upgrade path to 4.0 for users having compact tables on 3.x is that they must 
> execute {{ALTER ... DROP COMPACT STORAGE}} on all of their compact tables 
> *before* attempting the upgrade.
> Obviously, some users won't read the upgrade instructions (or miss a table) 
> and may try upgrading despite still having compact tables. If they do so, the 
> intent is that the node will _not_ start, with a message clearly indicating 
> the pre-upgrade step the user has missed. The user will then downgrade back 
> the node(s) to 3.x, run the proper {{ALTER ... DROP COMPACT STORAGE}}, and 
> then upgrade again.
> But while 4.0 does currently fail startup when finding any compact tables 
> with a decent message, I believe the check is done too late during startup.
> Namely, that check is done as we read the tables schema, so within 
> [{{Schema.instance.loadFromDisk()}}|https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/trunk/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/service/CassandraDaemon.java#L241].
>   But by then, we've _at least_ called 
> {{SystemKeyspace.persistLocalMetadata()}}} and 
> {{SystemKeyspaceMigrator40.migrate()}}, which will get into the commit log, 
> and even possibly flush new {{na}} format sstables. As a results, a user 
> might not be able to seemlessly restart the node on 3.x (to drop compact 
> storage on the appropriate tables).
> Basically, we should make sure the check for compact tables done at 4.0 
> startup is done as a {{StartupCheck}}, before the node does anything.
> We should also add a test for this (checking that if you try upgrading to 4.0 
> with compact storage, you can downgrade back with no intervention whatsoever).



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