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Jonathan Ellis updated CASSANDRA-18517: --------------------------------------- Workflow: Copy of Cassandra Default Workflow (was: Copy of Cassandra Bug Workflow) Issue Type: Improvement (was: Bug) > Make Cassandra more user-friendly (admin-friendly) by cleaning up logging > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: CASSANDRA-18517 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-18517 > Project: Cassandra > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Observability/Logging > Reporter: Jonathan Ellis > Assignee: Jonathan Ellis > Priority: Normal > > At a very high level we see two types of users: > 1. Early adopters generally want to understand Cassandra's design, how the > pieces fit together, and why > 2. Mainstream users just want it to work, preferably with as little attention > from them as possible > > Group 1 loves verbose logs because it helps them figure out what's going on > under the hood. Group 2 sees verbose logs as intimidating ("this is going to > be hard") if not scary ("this isn't debugged enough yet"). > > Early on, group 1 users predominate. But there's way more group 2 users out > there now and as Cassandra sees more adoption it will primarily come from > them. > > It's time to start optimizing for group 2. Group 1 is, after all, completely > capable of adjusting the log levels themselves when necessary. > > A good rule of thumb is, "is this necessary information for my day-to-day > operation of the system." If not, it should be at debug (or sometimes trace). > Compare [our startup > logging|https://gist.githubusercontent.com/jbellis/a1f324c145c4d46c3409969393b24077/raw/a767e4b92c29a51130940326de619a3c418096b7/gistfile1.txt] > with > [postgresql's.|https://gist.githubusercontent.com/jbellis/a9585d3f04f49c7e3685c9122975d51b/raw/beea37fd0834d1c8f38e5c1667623aa37598d3dd/gistfile1.txt] -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.20.10#820010) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: commits-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: commits-h...@cassandra.apache.org