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Cameron Zemek commented on CASSANDRA-18845:
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the 
{noformat}
(epSize == liveSize || liveSize > 1){noformat}
part breaks dtests. For example, 
{noformat}
pytest --force-resource-intensive-tests 
--cassandra-dir=/home/grom/dev/cassandra 
materialized_views_test.py::TestMaterializedViews::test_throttled_partition_update{noformat}
This test fails since it will shutdown a 5 node cluster and start/stop each 
node one at a time. And therefore liveSize > 1 is never true.

Possible paths forward:
 # The check for waiting for other nodes is off by default and requries setting 
a system property.
 # Figure out why there this large delay between waitToSettle call and getting 
ECHO responses.
 # Have the tests override cassandra.skip_wait_for_gossip_to_settle
 # ?? Some other option haven't thought of yet.

> Waiting for gossip to settle on live endpoints
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-18845
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-18845
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Cameron Zemek
>            Priority: Normal
>         Attachments: delay.log, example.log, 
> image-2023-09-14-11-16-23-020.png, stream.log, test1.log, test2.log, test3.log
>
>
> This is a follow up to CASSANDRA-18543
> Although that ticket added ability to set cassandra.gossip_settle_min_wait_ms 
> this is tedious and error prone. On a node just observed a 79 second gap 
> between waiting for gossip and the first echo response to indicate a node is 
> UP.
> The problem being that do not want to start Native Transport until gossip 
> settles otherwise queries can fail consistency such as LOCAL_QUORUM as it 
> thinks the replicas are still in DOWN state.
> Instead of having to set gossip_settle_min_wait_ms I am proposing that 
> (outside single node cluster) wait for UP message from another node before 
> considering gossip as settled. Eg.
> {code:java}
>             if (currentSize == epSize && currentLive == liveSize && liveSize 
> > 1)
>             {
>                 logger.debug("Gossip looks settled.");
>                 numOkay++;
>             } {code}



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