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Jonathan Ellis commented on CASSANDRA-3569:
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I think there's two motivations for using the FD:

- socket-based failure detection is prone to false negatives, e.g., I remember 
talking to the Twitter guys in the context of CASSANDRA-3005 about connections 
that appeared to be alive but made no progress
- socket-based failure detection is also prone to false positives, in the sense 
that a transient network failure shouldn't insta-fail a streaming operation.  
Trying to strike the right balance between retrying "enough, but not too much" 
would basically be reinventing the FD IMO.

I also note that while I agree with "just fix it at the OS level" in principle, 
we already have a higher bar than average for sysadmin kung-fu.  Other things 
being equal, I'd like to work as well as possible even in the face of an OS 
running with default tuning, i.e., almost every cluster in the wild.
                
> Failure detector downs should not break streams
> -----------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-3569
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-3569
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: Peter Schuller
>            Assignee: Peter Schuller
>
> CASSANDRA-2433 introduced this behavior just to get repairs to don't sit 
> there waiting forever. In my opinion the correct fix to that problem is to 
> use TCP keep alive. Unfortunately the TCP keep alive period is insanely high 
> by default on a modern Linux, so just doing that is not entirely good either.
> But using the failure detector seems non-sensicle to me. We have a 
> communication method which is the TCP transport, that we know is used for 
> long-running processes that you don't want to incorrectly be killed for no 
> good reason, and we are using a failure detector tuned to detecting when not 
> to send real-time sensitive request to nodes in order to actively kill a 
> working connection.
> So, rather than add complexity with protocol based ping/pongs and such, I 
> propose that we simply just use TCP keep alive for streaming connections and 
> instruct operators of production clusters to tweak 
> net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_{probes,intvl} as appropriate (or whatever equivalent 
> on their OS).
> I can submit the patch. Awaiting opinions.

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