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Brandon Williams commented on CASSANDRA-6127:
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At this point, I think we should:

* see if the flapping happens with vnodes (maybe Quentin already knows from his 
last test)
* see if the flapping happens without vnodes but the same number of nodes

Because if sum() in ArrivalWindow is burning the most CPU in the Gossiper task 
(note: not bottlenecking, each call was at most ~3ms, there were just lots of 
them) then that means that the problem is no longer tied to vnodes (if it ever 
was, since sum is per-node, not per-token) and we should probably open a new 
ticket (can't start a cluster of size >=X all at once, or similar) and discuss 
there.  We know that clusters much larger than any discussed on this ticket 
exist, but I don't think any of them have all rebooted at once.

> vnodes don't scale to hundreds of nodes
> ---------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-6127
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-6127
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Core
>         Environment: Any cluster that has vnodes and consists of hundreds of 
> physical nodes.
>            Reporter: Tupshin Harper
>            Assignee: Jonathan Ellis
>         Attachments: 6000vnodes.patch, AdjustableGossipPeriod.patch, 
> delayEstimatorUntilStatisticallyValid.patch
>
>
> There are a lot of gossip-related issues related to very wide clusters that 
> also have vnodes enabled. Let's use this ticket as a master in case there are 
> sub-tickets.
> The most obvious symptom I've seen is with 1000 nodes in EC2 with m1.xlarge 
> instances. Each node configured with 32 vnodes.
> Without vnodes, cluster spins up fine and is ready to handle requests within 
> 30 minutes or less. 
> With vnodes, nodes are reporting constant up/down flapping messages with no 
> external load on the cluster. After a couple of hours, they were still 
> flapping, had very high cpu load, and the cluster never looked like it was 
> going to stabilize or be useful for traffic.



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