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Peter Bailis edited comment on CASSANDRA-7056 at 6/25/14 5:18 PM:
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> RAMP has a requirement that anything being read/written that way is always 
> written in the same groupings. If you update B,C and then update A,B. You 
> can't read B,C anymore successfully, as the times on B and C will never match.

This isn't entirely correct. Let's say I do an atomic batch B1 that writes B = 
1 and C = 1 with timestamp 1, then you do an atomic batch B2 that writes A = 2 
and B = 2 at timestamp 2. Under RAMP, subsequent batch reads from B and C will 
return B = 2, C = 1. The timestamps on B and C will indeed (as you point out) 
not match, but simply returning matching timestamps is *not* the goal: the goal 
is that if you read any write in a given batch, you will read the rest of the 
writes in the batch (to the items you requested in the batch read)



was (Author: pbailis):
> RAMP has a requirement that anything being read/written that way is always 
> written in the same groupings. If you update B,C and then update A,B. You 
> can't read B,C anymore successfully, as the times on B and C will never match.

This isn't entirely correct. Let's say I do an atomic batch B1 that writes B = 
1 and C = 1 with timestamp 1, then you do an atomic batch B2 that writes A = 2 
and B = 2 at timestamp 2. Under RAMP, subsequent batch reads from B and C will 
return B = 2, C = 1. The timestamps on B and C will indeed (as you point out) 
never match, but simply returning matching timestamps is *not* the goal: the 
goal is that if you read any write in a given batch, you will read the rest of 
the writes in the batch (to the items you requested in the batch read)


> Add RAMP transactions
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>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-7056
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-7056
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Wish
>          Components: Core
>            Reporter: Tupshin Harper
>            Priority: Minor
>
> We should take a look at 
> [RAMP|http://www.bailis.org/blog/scalable-atomic-visibility-with-ramp-transactions/]
>  transactions, and figure out if they can be used to provide more efficient 
> LWT (or LWT-like) operations.



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