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Joshua McKenzie commented on CASSANDRA-7507:
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Was planning on creating another ticket for that effort and doing a little 
tidying up on this patch to make it more general rather than oom-specific on 
naming.  I should be able to get to that today.

> OOM creates unreliable state - die instantly better
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-7507
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-7507
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>            Reporter: Karl Mueller
>            Assignee: Joshua McKenzie
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 2.1.1
>
>         Attachments: 7507_v1.txt
>
>
> I had a cassandra node run OOM. My heap had enough headroom, there was just 
> something which either was a bug or some unfortunate amount of short-term 
> memory utilization. This resulted in the following error:
>  WARN [StorageServiceShutdownHook] 2014-06-30 09:38:38,251 StorageProxy.java 
> (line 1713) Some hints were not written before shutdown.  This is not 
> supposed to happen.  You should (a) run repair, and (b) file a bug report
> There are no other messages of relevance besides the OOM error about 90 
> minutes earlier.
> My (limited) understanding of the JVM and Cassandra says that when it goes 
> OOM, it will attempt to signal cassandra to shut down "cleanly". The problem, 
> in my view, is that with an OOM situation, nothing is guaranteed anymore. I 
> believe it's impossible to reliably "cleanly shut down" at this point, and 
> therefore it's wrong to even try. 
> Yes, ideally things could be written out, flushed to disk, memory messages 
> written, other nodes notified, etc. but why is there any reason to believe 
> any of those steps could happen? Would happen? Couldn't bad data be written 
> at this point to disk rather than good data? Some network messages delivered, 
> but not others?
> I think Cassandra should have the option to (and possibly default) to kill 
> itself immediately upon the OOM condition happening in a hard way, and not 
> rely on the java-based clean shutdown process. Cassandra already handles 
> recovery from unclean shutdown, and it's not a big deal. My node, for 
> example, kept in a sort-of alive state for 90 minutes where who knows what it 
> was doing or not doing.
> I don't know enough about the JVM and options for it to know the best exact 
> implementation of "die instantly on OOM", but it should be something that's 
> possible either with some flags or a C library (which doesn't rely on java 
> memory to do something which it may not be able to get!)
> Short version: a kill -9 of all C* processes in that instance without needing 
> more java memory, when OOM is raised



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