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Glen Mazza commented on ROL-2121:
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Hi David, it doesn't seem appropriate to suggest certain websites are using
Roller when they aren't, and impolite to link companies and people to dead
links, especially those who didn't ask to be put on this page to begin with.
For background:
1.) While I was on the team from 2012 thru mid-2015 I had updated the Powered
by Roller[1] list for all Roller blogs as I found them by Googling or people
disclosing them. We went from about 8 blogs to 54 blogs during my time on the
project.[2]
2.) In mid-2015 I forked Roller and went my own way due to architectural
disagreements, and stopped maintaining the Roller Powered By List.
3.) In August 2017 I revisted the Powered By List after two years separate from
the project and identified 26 out of 54 blogs no longer using Roller -- either
the sites were now returning 404's or they were clearly on Wordpress, Ghost,
etc., so I removed them.[3] Someone on Roller then revoked my write access to
the Wiki so I could no longer remove dead links or non-Roller blogs. (Fair
enough, as I work on a competitor product today, and an accurate display of
Roller's usage would benefit me, not just users evaluating Roller.)
4.) I revisited the list again this week, and found another six blogs either
returning 404s or non-Roller blogs, bringing Roller down to 22 actives. No
longer having Wiki write access, I created this PR for those six to be removed.
5.) With this PR, instead of removing the six, you reverted my 2017 change,
going back to the original list of 54 blogs, 32 of which either are not using
Roller or are dead links today. The disclaimer given "Past and present blogs
that have been powered by Roller" can be incorrectly taken to mean that all the
blogs are using Roller today, it's just that some blogs are "past" (archived,
no longer being updated). "URLs that currently or at one time hosted Roller
blogs" would be more accurate, but it still seems more appropriate to remove
clearly non-Roller blogs as well as no longer hyperlink companies and people's
names to dead URLs.
For any project, would-be adopters go to the Powered By page to see (1) how
well the project is in use today (if few people are using it, people evaluate
other projects), (2) see sample usages of the project to judge if the product
fits their needs. Your offhand view is that it's cool to provide a
trip-down-memory-lane list of which > 60% are no longer using Roller however
can give the impression that the project is misrepresenting its usage in order
to spur its adoption (we are much more capable of determining whether a site is
using Roller than an average would-be adopter). Your option, I'm not on the
team anymore, but I'd again recommend dropping down to just the 22 actives.
Regards,
Glen
cc [~rubys] [~curcuru] [~chrismattmann]
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROLLER/PoweredByRoller
[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpreviousversions.action?pageId=31821770
[3]
[https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=31821770&selectedPageVersions=49&selectedPageVersions=48]
> Remove six sites no longer using Roller from Community page
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: ROL-2121
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ROL-2121
> Project: Apache Roller
> Issue Type: Task
> Reporter: Glen Mazza
> Assignee: Roller Unassigned
> Priority: Major
>
> Hi, on the Powered by Roller page
> ([https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROLLER/PoweredByRoller),] the
> following six sites are no longer using Roller (returning 404's or directing
> to non-Roller sites), they should be removed from the list:
> [Carleton University Library (Ottawa,
> Canada)|https://blogs.library.carleton.ca/roller/themadgicalweb/], [DZone's
> JRoller|http://www.jroller.com/], [USA B2C|http://www.usab2c.com/roller/],
> [Viithiisys Technologies|http://www.viithiisys.com/blog], [Mabula
> Haverkamp|http://www.bulapedia.nl/blog/Gerard/] and [Markus
> Malkusch|http://markus.malkusch.de/blog/].
>
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