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Sriram Subramanian commented on SAMZA-416:
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+1 on Jay's comment. I have had the same thoughts about this.

1. We should focus on having understandable configs and validating and 
reporting errors on bad configs correctly
2. Implement the config CLI with the new design in SAMZA-348
3. Stick to a more command line way of updating configs
4. W.r.t pluggability with systems other than Kafka to update configs, I would 
suggest just having a config API as Chris suggests above and implement Kafka 
behind it. We don't really have to stress on the pluggability in the 
documentation but it is more for a better design in code.

> Samza Configuration DSL
> -----------------------
>
>                 Key: SAMZA-416
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SAMZA-416
>             Project: Samza
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>            Reporter: David Chen
>
> The user-facing language for Samza configurations is currently Java 
> Properties. While this works for the time being and simple to implement, it 
> is verbose and cumbersome for the end user.
> Since SAMZA-40 is opened to refactor the way Samza configuration is wired and 
> SAMZA-348 is opened to allow Samza jobs to be configured through a stream, it 
> is thus natural to consider a scripting model for configuring Samza jobs.
> One approach would be to implement a DSL in a scripting language like Python. 
> Implementing a Python DSL is actually very easy to do, and there are many 
> examples of Python DSLs in non-trivial use cases, most notably, [Google's 
> build system, 
> Blaze|http://google-engtools.blogspot.com/2011/08/build-in-cloud-how-build-system-works.html].
>  I found [a GitHub Gist containing a more detailed example of a Blaze BUILD 
> file|https://gist.github.com/wiseman/3834928]. Blaze also inspired a number 
> of open source clones, most notably [Twitter 
> Pants|http://pantsbuild.github.io/].
> Another idea, by [~jonbringhurst] from SAMZA-348:
> {quote}
> Regarding the client commands to create and modify Samza jobs (such as 
> configure-job and run-job), it may be useful to review existing commands that 
> perform a similar role:
> My personal favorite is Slurm's set of client commands, of which sbatch is 
> probably the most relevant (http://www.schedmd.com/slurmdocs/sbatch.html).
> To go back a bit further in history, it might be a good idea to take a look 
> at the POSIX qsub style command from PBS/Torque 
> (http://docs.adaptivecomputing.com/torque/4-1-4/Content/topics/commands/qsub.htm).
>  Moab's msub also follows this design.
> Regarding a possible DSL for building configuration, it may be useful to look 
> at Slurm's lua callback for job configuration (warning, GPLv2 code) 
> https://github.com/SchedMD/slurm/blob/master/contribs/lua/job_submit.lua
> {quote}
> We could, of course, have both a command line tool and a DSL, and I am sure 
> once Samza takes off, there will be people implementing DSLs for other 
> language clients as well. The key would be to implement a standard interface 
> for these different implementations to talk to.



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