Author: dsahlberg
Date: Sun May  5 16:26:16 2024
New Revision: 1917520

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1917520&view=rev
Log:
In site/publish:

Merge 1917511 and 1917512 from site/staging:

www.svnforum.org now only points to the Cirate website, there is no forum
anymore. Remove the link.

* faq.html, faq.ja.html, faq.zh.html
  (#more-information): As above


Remove references to the IRC channels

* contributing.html, docs/community-guide/conventions.part.html,
  docs/community-guide/general.part.html,
  docs/community-guide/how-to-roll-releases-in-private.txt,
  docs/community-guide/issues.part.html,
  docs/community-guide/releasing.part.html, faq.ja.html,
  faq.zh.html
  (various sections): As above

* faq.html
  (more-information): As above
  (irc): New section explaining why the IRC channels disappeared

Discussed on dev@
https://lists.apache.org/thread/pjxppcnt1b5zcbph3181hlb56rbo77wf




Modified:
    subversion/site/publish/   (props changed)
    subversion/site/publish/contributing.html
    subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/conventions.part.html
    subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html
    
subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/how-to-roll-releases-in-private.txt
    subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/issues.part.html
    subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/releasing.part.html
    subversion/site/publish/faq.html
    subversion/site/publish/faq.ja.html
    subversion/site/publish/faq.zh.html

Propchange: subversion/site/publish/
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Merged /subversion/site/staging:r1917511-1917512

Modified: subversion/site/publish/contributing.html
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/contributing.html?rev=1917520&r1=1917519&r2=1917520&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- subversion/site/publish/contributing.html (original)
+++ subversion/site/publish/contributing.html Sun May  5 16:26:16 2024
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@
 <ul>
 <li><p style="font-weight: bold;">Participate in the mailing lists</p>
     <p>There are <a href="https://subversion.apache.org/faq#more-information";>
-       mailing lists, IRC channels and forums</a>
+       mailing lists</a>
        you can join to discuss Subversion. These are an
        excellent source for users and contributors interested in
        having technical discussions, answering questions, or resolving

Modified: subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/conventions.part.html
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/conventions.part.html?rev=1917520&r1=1917519&r2=1917520&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/conventions.part.html 
(original)
+++ subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/conventions.part.html Sun May  
5 16:26:16 2024
@@ -893,12 +893,8 @@ necessary. </p>
 </li>
 </ul>
 
-<p> This not only helps put developers in the right frame of mind for
-reading the rest of the log message, but also plays well with the
-"ASFBot" bot that echoes the first line of each commit to realtime
-forums like IRC.  (For details, see 
-<a href="https://wilderness.apache.org/";>https://wilderness.apache.org/</a>
-)</p>
+<p> This helps put developers in the right frame of mind for
+reading the rest of the log message.</p>
 
 <p> If the commit is just one simple change to one file, then you can
 dispense with the general description and simply go straight to the

Modified: subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html?rev=1917520&r1=1917519&r2=1917520&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html (original)
+++ subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html Sun May  5 
16:26:16 2024
@@ -20,20 +20,9 @@ A number of Subversion's developers are
 improve Subversion, while many others are simply excellent volunteers
 who are interested in building a better version control system.</p>
 
-<p>The community exists mainly through IRC, mailing lists and a
+<p>The community exists mainly through mailing lists and a
 Subversion repository.  To participate:</p>
 
-<ul>
-<li>
-<p>Join us on irc.libera.chat in the #svn-dev channel (use the 
-<a href="https://web.libera.chat/?channel=#svn-dev";>web interface</a> or 
-<a href="https://matrix.to/#/#svn-dev:libera.chat";>Matrix</a> or
-any IRC software; archived 
-<a href="https://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/svn-dev";>here</a>).
-
-</p>
-</li>
-
 <li><p>Join the "dev", "commits", and "announce" mailing lists.
        The dev list, d...@subversion.apache.org, is where almost all
        discussion takes place.  All development questions should go
@@ -685,17 +674,15 @@ have an <tt>svn</tt> client, <a href="/d
 tarball</a>.)</p>
 
 <p>If your patch implements a new feature, or changes large amounts of code,
-please remember to discuss it on the dev@ list first.  (IRC on #svn-dev is also
-appropriate for quick feedback before&mdash;but not instead of&mdash;mailing
-list discussion.  If you ask on IRC, please wait some time for a response, as
-not everyone is online all the time (particularly on weekends).)  That is so
+please remember to discuss it on the dev@ list first.  Please wait some time
+for a response, as not everyone is online all the time.  That is so
 the community can express concerns with and suggest improvements for the
 proposed feature or implementation details as soon as possible&mdash;it is
 always better for all parties if that feedback is provided sooner (even before
 any code is written) rather than later.</p>
 
 <p>If you have any questions about the patch, please feel free to ask them on
-IRC or dev@.</p>
+dev@.</p>
 
 </div> <!-- patches-writing -->
 

Modified: 
subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/how-to-roll-releases-in-private.txt
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/how-to-roll-releases-in-private.txt?rev=1917520&r1=1917519&r2=1917520&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- 
subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/how-to-roll-releases-in-private.txt
 (original)
+++ 
subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/how-to-roll-releases-in-private.txt
 Sun May  5 16:26:16 2024
@@ -66,8 +66,6 @@ To post the release:
   and ensure the results are no more than a second apart.  This ensures you
   will not announce before the end of the embargo.
 
-- Join IRC so the other committers can easily report any problems to you.
-
 - At the designated end of the embargo, upload and announce the release as 
usual.
 
   + Upload:

Modified: subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/issues.part.html
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/issues.part.html?rev=1917520&r1=1917519&r2=1917520&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/issues.part.html (original)
+++ subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/issues.part.html Sun May  5 
16:26:16 2024
@@ -79,10 +79,7 @@ a common-sense thing, like Subversion ju
 caused smoke to pour out of your monitor, then you can trust your
 judgement.  But if you're not sure, go ahead and ask on the users
 mailing list first, <a href="mailto:us...@subversion.apache.org";
->us...@subversion.apache.org</a>, or ask in IRC, <a
-href="irc://irc.libera.chat/#svn">irc.libera.chat, channel #svn</a> (
-<a href="https://web.libera.chat/?channel=#svn";>web interface</a> or
-<a href="https://matrix.to/#/#svn:libera.chat";>Matrix</a>).</p>
+>us...@subversion.apache.org</a>.</p>
 
 <p>You should
 also <a href="/reporting-issues.html#queries"

Modified: subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/releasing.part.html
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/releasing.part.html?rev=1917520&r1=1917519&r2=1917520&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/releasing.part.html (original)
+++ subversion/site/publish/docs/community-guide/releasing.part.html Sun May  5 
16:26:16 2024
@@ -763,7 +763,7 @@ haven't voted on, like this:</p>
 <p><a href="<!--#echo var="GUIDE_ROLES_PAGE" -->#obvious-fix">Obvious fixes</a>
 do not require '(rX only)' to be mentioned.</p>
 
-<p>If you commit someone else's vote that was communicated via IRC or other
+<p>If you commit someone else's vote that was communicated via other
 means, note that in your log message.</p>
 
 </div> <!-- release-stabilization-how-to-edit -->
@@ -1054,7 +1054,7 @@ Thanks!
 Update the issue tracker to have appropriate versions/milestones</a>.  If
 releasing a new minor release a version for 1.MINOR.x should be added.  All
 releases should add a version for the next release (i.e. 1.MINOR.x+1).  If
-you do not have permissions to do so please ask on IRC or send an email to
+you do not have permissions to do so please send an email to
 the dev@ list.</p>
 
 </div> <!-- rolling-release -->
@@ -1421,9 +1421,6 @@ rejection to the dev@ mailing list so th
 needs to be done about it. (If necessary, announce@ mailing list moderators can
 be contacted via the announce-owner@ handle.)</p>
 
-<p>Update the topics in various Subversion-related IRC channels, such as
-<tt>#svn</tt> and <tt>#svn-dev</tt> on libera.chat.</p>
-
 <p>If this is an X.Y.0 release, update the community support level at the very
 top of the <tt>STATUS</tt> files of any branches that have changed support
 status.  This would usually be <tt>X.Y.x/STATUS</tt>,

Modified: subversion/site/publish/faq.html
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/faq.html?rev=1917520&r1=1917519&r2=1917520&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- subversion/site/publish/faq.html (original)
+++ subversion/site/publish/faq.html Sun May  5 16:26:16 2024
@@ -63,6 +63,7 @@ For older questions, see <a href="#depre
     get more information?</a></li>  
 <li><a href="#moderation">Why isn't my post showing up on the mailing
     list?</a></li>
+<li><a href="#irc">Where are the IRC channels?</a></li>
 <li><a href="#dst-2007">How is Subversion affected by changes
     in Daylight Savings Time (DST)?</a></li>
 <li><a href="#shattered-sha1">How is Subversion affected by SHA-1 hash
@@ -713,17 +714,6 @@ other resources available:</p>
       (<a href="mailing-lists.html">full details</a> including
       public archives, subscribe, unsubscribe;
       <a href="#moderation">moderated</a>)</li>
-  <li>The Subversion Users <b>IRC channel</b> #svn on irc.libera.chat (use
-      the <a href="https://web.libera.chat/?channel=#svn";>web interface</a> or
-      <a href="https://matrix.to/#/#svn:libera.chat";>Matrix</a> or
-      any IRC software; archived
-      <a href="https://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/svn";>here</a>).
-      (The IRC channel was hosted on freenode.net until May 2021. It may still 
exist
-      but it is no longer recognized as an official channel.)
-      </li>
-  <li><a href="https://www.svnforum.org/";>svnforum.org</a>, an unofficial
-      <b>web-based forum</b> with approximately the same target audience as the
-      mailing list</li>
 </ul>
 
 </div>
@@ -745,6 +735,23 @@ again.</p>
 
 </div>
 
+<div class="h3" id="irc">
+<h3>Where are the IRC channels?
+  <a class="sectionlink" href="#irc"
+    title="Link to this section">&para;</a>
+</h3>
+
+<p>Previously there were official IRC channels #svn and #svn-dev on
+freenode.net (until May 2021) and on irc.libera.chat (from May 2021). Due to
+the low number of participants, we no longer recommend using these channels
+for support and/or development questions.</p>
+
+<p>Archives are available
+ <a href="https://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/svn";>here</a>.
+</p>
+
+</div>
+
 <div class="h3" id="dst-2007">
 <h3>How is Subversion affected by changes in Daylight Savings Time (DST)?
   <a class="sectionlink" href="#dst-2007"

Modified: subversion/site/publish/faq.ja.html
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/faq.ja.html?rev=1917520&r1=1917519&r2=1917520&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- subversion/site/publish/faq.ja.html [utf-8] (original)
+++ subversion/site/publish/faq.ja.html [utf-8] Sun May  5 16:26:16 2024
@@ -463,8 +463,6 @@ Win32システムには、シンボリ�
   <li><a href="mailing-lists.html">Subversion ユーザーズメイリングリスト</a> (<a 
href="mailto:us...@subversion.apache.org";>us...@subversion.apache.org</a>)
        &mdash; 注意: このメイリングリストは<a 
href="#moderation">モデレータ制</a>だから、あなたの投稿が配送されるまでには、少し遅延があるかも。</li>
   <li><a href="https://svn.haxx.se/users/";>Subversion ユーザーズリストのアーカイブ</a></li>
-  <li>IRC。irc.libera.chat の #svn チャンネルにて。</li>
-  <li><a 
href="https://www.svnforum.org/";>svnforum.org</a>。Webベースの非公式なフォーラムで、メイリングリストと同じ程度の層を参加者のターゲットにしている。</li>
 </ul>
 
 </div>

Modified: subversion/site/publish/faq.zh.html
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/faq.zh.html?rev=1917520&r1=1917519&r2=1917520&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- subversion/site/publish/faq.zh.html [utf-8] (original)
+++ subversion/site/publish/faq.zh.html [utf-8] Sun May  5 16:26:16 2024
@@ -443,8 +443,6 @@ href="http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/tr
        >us...@subversion.apache.org</a>)
        &mdash; 注意这个列表需要经过<a href="#moderation">审核</a>,所以在显示之前有一些延迟。</li>
   <li><a href="https://svn.haxx.se/users/";>Subversion用户信息列表。</a></li>
-  <li>在线聊天系统(IRC)在irc.libera.chat的#svn频道。</li>
-  <li><a 
href="https://www.svnforum.org/";>svnforum.org</a>一个非官方基于网络的论坛,针对的读者和邮件列表近似。</li>
 </ul>
 
 </div>


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