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Howard M. Lewis Ship commented on TAP5-916:
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This does come down to a queston of what's good for user's savvy enough to use 
Logback vs. general users who use Log4J out of habit.

> Tapestry projects include logging impls as compile depencency
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: TAP5-916
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-916
>             Project: Tapestry 5
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: Ben Tomasini
>            Priority: Minor
>
> When including tapestry-ioc in my projects, my maven dependencies look like 
> this:
> <dependency>
>             <groupId>org.apache.tapestry</groupId>
>             <artifactId>tapestry-ioc</artifactId>
>             <version>5.1.0.5</version>
>             <exclusions>
>               <exclusion>
>                       <artifactId>slf4j-log4j12</artifactId>
>                       <groupId>org.slf4j</groupId>
>               </exclusion>
>               <exclusion>
>                       <artifactId>log4j</artifactId>
>                       <groupId>log4j</groupId>
>               </exclusion>
>             </exclusions>
>         </dependency>
> I am using logback in my application and need the exclude log4j.  Ideally, 
> these dependencies should be changed to <scope>provided</scope> in the 
> tapestry poms.

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