Matt, thanks for the clarification. I may have missed the main point of the PROPOSAL thread then. I personally want to continue the discussion before voting.
* Phyton as runtime requirement. Are you planing to migrate all BASH scripts provided by Hadoop (or dynamically created -ie launcher scripts) to Phyton? * What else in the current build, besides saveVersion.sh, you see as candidate to be migrated to Phyton? * How are you planning to define what Phyton modules can be used? Will developers have to install them manually? Cheers On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Matt Foley <mfo...@hortonworks.com> wrote: > Hi Alejandro, > Please see in-line below. > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Alejandro Abdelnur <t...@cloudera.com> > wrote: > > > Matt, > > > > The scope of this vote seems different from what was discussed in the > > PROPOSAL thread. > > In the PROPOSAL thread you indicated this was for Hadoop1 because it is > ANT > > based. And the main reason was to remove saveVersion.sh. > > Your #3 was not discussed in the proposal, was it? > > > > The item #3 was in my original statement of the problem, with which I > started the proposal thread. In fact, the thread title was "[PROPOSAL] > introduce Python as build-time and run-time dependency for Hadoop and > throughout Hadoop stack". It is true that only one or two people chose to > discuss #3 further in that thread. > > The point is not just to replace a single script, but to provide a means to > do cross-platform scripts, which will over time replace many > non-platform-specific scripts written in platform-specific languages. > > > > > > It seems this vote is dragging much more stuff it was originally > discussed. > > I think you should suspend the vote, recap the motivation and then > restart > > the vote. > > > > I respectfully disagree. I believe a careful reading of the cited > discussion thread, plus my own statement of the vote, provides sufficient > background for a thoughtful decision on the subject. Presumably so do the > ten other people who had already voted before you made that comment. > > If several other people want more discussion first, please speak up. > Thanks, > --Matt > > As things are laid out at the moment my vote is: > > > > -1 (It still seems an overkill to introduce a new runtime requirement for > > building to replace a script.) > > +1 (I think this is the right way to simplify the build) > > -1 (AFAIK there is not such requirement at the moment, and if it comes it > > would be in the form of an AM, which I'd argue it should leave outside of > > Hadoop) > > > > Thx > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Giridharan Kesavan < > > gkesa...@hortonworks.com> wrote: > > > > > +1, +1, +1 > > > > > > -Giri > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > For discussion, please see previous thread "[PROPOSAL] introduce > Python > > > as > > > > build-time and run-time dependency for Hadoop and throughout Hadoop > > > stack". > > > > > > > > This vote consists of three separate items: > > > > > > > > 1. Contributors shall be allowed to use Python as a > > platform-independent > > > > scripting language for build-time tasks, and add Python as a > build-time > > > > dependency. > > > > Please vote +1, 0, -1. > > > > > > > > 2. Contributors shall be encouraged to use Maven tasks in combination > > > with > > > > either plug-ins or Groovy scripts to do cross-platform build-time > > tasks, > > > > even under ant in Hadoop-1. > > > > Please vote +1, 0, -1. > > > > > > > > 3. Contributors shall be allowed to use Python as a > > platform-independent > > > > scripting language for run-time tasks, and add Python as a run-time > > > > dependency. > > > > Please vote +1, 0, -1. > > > > > > > > Note that voting -1 on #1 and +1 on #2 essentially REQUIRES > > contributors > > > to > > > > use Maven plug-ins or Groovy as the only means of cross-platform > > > build-time > > > > tasks, or to simply continue using platform-dependent scripts as is > > being > > > > done today. > > > > > > > > Vote closes at 12:30pm PST on Saturday 1 December. > > > > --------- > > > > Personally, my vote is +1, +1, +1. > > > > I think #2 is preferable to #1, but still has many unknowns in it, > and > > > > until those are worked out I don't want to delay moving to > > cross-platform > > > > scripts for build-time tasks. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > --Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Alejandro > > > -- Alejandro
