reviews.apache.org is backed by Review Board, and I've had a very positive
experience with that tool on other projects.  HADOOP-9629 is a Hadoop patch
where we decided to go ahead and use it, and I think it helped.  AFAIK,
there is no rule against using it in Hadoop, but it does have the side
effect of splitting part of the conversation out of jira.  If Crucible can
keep all the review notes sync'd with the jira and searchable, then that
would be very interesting.

Chris Nauroth
Hortonworks
http://hortonworks.com/


On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Arpit Agarwal <aagar...@hortonworks.com>
wrote:

> IMO the number one improvement would be a web-based review tool. We could
> evaluate Atlassian Crucible since it claims to integrate well with Jira. I
> have not tried https://reviews.apache.org/r/new/.
>
> Some easy improvements that were also raised by others on the private list:
> - Encourage contributors to batch related trivial fixes into a single
> patch.
> - Require more detailed descriptions with non-trivial patch contributions.
> For patches that require knowledge of a specific subsystem a
> background+design note would be a good start.
> - Eliminate CHANGES.txt. This came up on the dev list not too long ago and
> IIRC Allen did a PoC.
>
> I am not optimistic about Gerrit from past experience. It does help gate
> checkins and enforce pre-commit checks (good). I did not find it
> user-friendly and it will be an additional hurdle for contributors to
> understand (bad).
>
> Andrew, can the community build on your distributed pre-commit work to make
> it production ready?
>
> Regards,
> Arpit
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Andrew Wang <andrew.w...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Let's move this over to common-dev@, general@ is normally used for
> project
> > announcements rather than discussion topics.
> >
> > I'd like to summarize a few things mentioned on the private@ thread,
> > related to streamlining the code submission process.
> >
> > - Gerrit was brought up again, as it has in the past, as something that
> > could make the actual process of reviewing and committing a lot easier.
> > This would be especially helpful for small patches, where the mechanics
> of
> > committing can take longer than reviewing the patch.
> > - There were also concerns about forking discussions between JIRA and
> > Gerrit. This has been an issue in Spark, and we'd like to keep
> discussions
> > and issue tracking centralized.
> >
> > - Some talk about how to improve precommit. Right now it takes hours to
> run
> > the unit tests, which slows down patch iterations. One solution is
> running
> > tests in parallel (and even distributed). Previous distributed
> experiments
> > have done a full unit test run in a couple minutes, but it'd be a fair
> > amount of work to actually make this production ready.
> > - Also mention of putting in place more linting and static analysis.
> > Automating this will save reviewer time.
> >
> > Best,
> > Andrew
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Ted Yu <yuzhih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In some cases, contributor responded to review comments and attached
> > > patches addressing the comments.
> > >
> > > Later on, there was simply no response to the latest patch - even with
> > > follow-on ping.
> > >
> > > I wish this aspect can be improved.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze <
> > > s29752-hadoopgene...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi contributors,
> > > > I would like to (re)start a discussion regrading to our patch review
> > > > process.  A similar discussion has been happened in a the hadoop
> > private
> > > > mailing list, which is inappropriate.
> > > > Here is the problem:The patch available queues become longer and
> > longer.
> > > > It seems that we never can catch up.  There are patches sitting in
> the
> > > > queues for years.  How could we speed up?
> > > > Regrads,Tsz-Wo
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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