I agree that our tests are in a bad state. It would help if we could maintain a list of "flaky tests" somewhere in git and have Yetus consider the flakiness of a test before -1ing a patch. Right now, we pretty much all have that list in our heads, and we're not applying it very consistently. Having this list would also let us know where to concentrate our efforts to fix things.
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Steve Loughran <ste...@hortonworks.com> wrote: > > Jenkins is pretty much dead in the water these days; a test run that works is > a rare miracle rather than the default state. Which also means most patches > are being +1'd in even though patches are failing, with comments like "the > test failures are probably unrelated" > > > I think everyone has to be grateful that I'm not volunteering to be release > manager for 2.8, as if I were i'd have already imposed a block on any patches > going in until jenkins was stable. That is: nothing but test fixes would go > in. > > as it is, at least for the next couple of weeks, I'm going to experiment with > reverting patches which break the build. Usually those breakages are being > fixed, eventually, with followup patches. With a "patches which break the > build get reverted" policy, whoever submitted that first patch gets to write > the fix *and test it again*. This should encourage people to be more rigorous > first time round. > > > 1. Yes, I'm going to have to be ruthless and do this for myself too. Or > others can. I'm not doing much (any?) core hadoop coding right now, so more > isolated. > 2. No, I don't plan to show favouritism: break the build and it gets > rolled back. > 3. We can review this in a week or two to see how it goes. And someone > else can volunteer to keep jenkins happy. > 4. I'll get a smaller fix for HDFS-9263 in. > 5. I've also started running slider 0.90-SNAPSHOT test runs with Hadoop > 2.8.0-SNAPSHOT, so I'm being the first to find problems beyond jenkins. So > far HADOOP-12050 is the first blocker. It went in in August, which shows we > aren't doing enough cross-version testing beyond just Jenkins. That breakage > (HADOOP-12587) is stopping my test code working against secure clusters —if I > was being really harsh I'd have reverted that too, but's been in long enough > I think a fix is probably the best solution. Well, this is already directly contracting point #2, isn't it? :) I am open to being more critical about patches going in, but I think we should have some very minimal discussion before reverting things. It's just polite. Colin > 6. Finally: everyone should feel free to fix tests. Don't be shy now! > > Giving this is a US vacation week, it should be a quieter week for breakages. > > Sorry —but if we can't even get Jenkins stable, then what hope do we have for > a 2.8 release working? > > -Steve > >
