Hello, were there any updates around the 3.2.0 RC timing? All I see in the
current blockers are related to the new Submarine subproject, wasn't sure
if that is what is holding things up.

Cheers,
Jon

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Sunil G <sun...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks Robert and Haibo for quickly correcting same.
> Sigh, I somehow missed one file while committing the change. Sorry for the
> trouble.
>
> - Sunil
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 5:22 AM Robert Kanter <rkan...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > Looks like there's two that weren't updated:
> > >> [115] 16:32 : hadoop-common (trunk) :: grep "3.2.0-SNAPSHOT" . -r
> > --include=pom.xml
> > ./hadoop-project/pom.xml:
> > <hadoop.assemblies.version>3.2.0-SNAPSHOT</hadoop.assemblies.version>
> > ./pom.xml:    <hadoop.version>3.2.0-SNAPSHOT</hadoop.version>
> >
> > I've just pushed in an addendum commit to fix those.
> > In the future, please make sure to do a sanity compile when updating
> poms.
> >
> > thanks
> > - Robert
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 11:44 AM Aaron Fabbri <fab...@cloudera.com.invalid
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Trunk is not building for me.. Did you miss a 3.2.0-SNAPSHOT in the
> >> top-level pom.xml?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 10:16 AM Sunil G <sun...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi All
> >> >
> >> > As mentioned in earlier mail, I have cut branch-3.2 and reset trunk to
> >> > 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT. I will share the RC details sooner once all necessary
> >> > patches are pulled into branch-3.2.
> >> >
> >> > Thank You
> >> > - Sunil
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 2:00 PM Sunil G <sun...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi All
> >> > >
> >> > > We are now down to the last Blocker and HADOOP-15407 is merged to
> >> trunk.
> >> > > Thanks for the support.
> >> > >
> >> > > *Plan for RC*
> >> > > 3.2 branch cut and reset trunk : *25th Tuesday*
> >> > > RC0 for 3.2: *28th Friday*
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank You
> >> > > Sunil
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM Sunil G <sun...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi All
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We are down to 3 Blockers and 4 Critical now. Thanks all of you for
> >> > >> helping in this. I am following up on these tickets, once its
> closed
> >> we
> >> > >> will cut the 3.2 branch.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks
> >> > >> Sunil Govindan
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:10 PM Sunil G <sun...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Hi All,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Inline with the original 3.2 communication proposal dated 17th
> July
> >> > >>> 2018, I would like to provide more updates.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> We are approaching previously proposed code freeze date (September
> >> 14,
> >> > >>> 2018). So I would like to cut 3.2 branch on 17th Sept and point
> >> > existing
> >> > >>> trunk to 3.3 if there are no issues.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> *Current Release Plan:*
> >> > >>> Feature freeze date : all features to merge by September 7, 2018.
> >> > >>> Code freeze date : blockers/critical only, no improvements and
> >> > >>> blocker/critical bug-fixes September 14, 2018.
> >> > >>> Release date: September 28, 2018
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> If any critical/blocker tickets which are targeted to 3.2.0, we
> >> need to
> >> > >>> backport to 3.2 post branch cut.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Here's an updated 3.2.0 feature status:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 1. Merged & Completed features:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> - (Wangda) YARN-8561: Hadoop Submarine project for DeepLearning
> >> > >>> workloads Initial cut.
> >> > >>> - (Uma) HDFS-10285: HDFS Storage Policy Satisfier
> >> > >>> - (Sunil) YARN-7494: Multi Node scheduling support in Capacity
> >> > >>> Scheduler.
> >> > >>> - (Chandni/Eric) YARN-7512: Support service upgrade via YARN
> Service
> >> > API
> >> > >>> and CLI.
> >> > >>> - (Naga/Sunil) YARN-3409: Node Attributes support in YARN.
> >> > >>> - (Inigo) HDFS-12615: Router-based HDFS federation. Improvement
> >> works.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 2. Features close to finish:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> - (Steve) S3Guard Phase III. Close to commit.
> >> > >>> - (Steve) S3a phase V. Close to commit.
> >> > >>> - (Steve) Support Windows Azure Storage. Close to commit.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 3. Tentative/Cancelled features for 3.2:
> >> > >>> - (Rohith) YARN-5742: Serve aggregated logs of historical apps
> from
> >> > >>> ATSv2. Patch in progress.
> >> > >>> - (Haibo Chen) YARN-1011: Resource overcommitment. Looks
> >> challenging to
> >> > >>> be done before Aug 2018.
> >> > >>> - (Eric) YARN-7129: Application Catalog for YARN applications.
> >> > >>> Challenging as more discussions are on-going.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> *Summary of 3.2.0 issues status:*
> >> > >>> 19 Blocker and Critical issues [1] are open, I am following up
> with
> >> > >>> owners to get status on each of them to get in by Code Freeze
> date.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> [1] project in (YARN, HADOOP, MAPREDUCE, HDFS) AND priority in
> >> > (Blocker,
> >> > >>> Critical) AND resolution = Unresolved AND "Target Version/s" =
> 3.2.0
> >> > ORDER
> >> > >>> BY priority DESC
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Thanks,
> >> > >>> Sunil
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 9:59 PM Sunil G <sun...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> Hi All,
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Inline with earlier communication dated 17th July 2018, I would
> >> like
> >> > to
> >> > >>>> provide some updates.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> We are approaching previously proposed code freeze date (Aug 31).
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> One of the critical feature Node Attributes feature merge
> >> > >>>> discussion/vote is ongoing. Also few other Blocker bugs need a
> bit
> >> > more
> >> > >>>> time. With regard to this, suggesting to push the feature/code
> >> freeze
> >> > for 2
> >> > >>>> more weeks to accommodate these jiras too.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Proposing Updated changes in plan inline with this:
> >> > >>>> Feature freeze date : all features to merge by September 7, 2018.
> >> > >>>> Code freeze date : blockers/critical only, no improvements and
> >> > >>>>  blocker/critical bug-fixes September 14, 2018.
> >> > >>>> Release date: September 28, 2018
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> If any features in branch which are targeted to 3.2.0, please
> >> reply to
> >> > >>>> this email thread.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> *Here's an updated 3.2.0 feature status:*
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> 1. Merged & Completed features:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> - (Wangda) YARN-8561: Hadoop Submarine project for DeepLearning
> >> > >>>> workloads Initial cut.
> >> > >>>> - (Uma) HDFS-10285: HDFS Storage Policy Satisfier
> >> > >>>> - (Sunil) YARN-7494: Multi Node scheduling support in Capacity
> >> > >>>> Scheduler.
> >> > >>>> - (Chandni/Eric) YARN-7512: Support service upgrade via YARN
> >> Service
> >> > >>>> API and CLI.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> 2. Features close to finish:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> - (Naga/Sunil) YARN-3409: Node Attributes support in YARN.
> >> Merge/Vote
> >> > >>>> Ongoing.
> >> > >>>> - (Rohith) YARN-5742: Serve aggregated logs of historical apps
> from
> >> > >>>> ATSv2. Patch in progress.
> >> > >>>> - (Virajit) HDFS-12615: Router-based HDFS federation. Improvement
> >> > works.
> >> > >>>> - (Steve) S3Guard Phase III, S3a phase V, Support Windows Azure
> >> > >>>> Storage. In progress.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> 3. Tentative features:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> - (Haibo Chen) YARN-1011: Resource overcommitment. Looks
> >> challenging
> >> > to
> >> > >>>> be done before Aug 2018.
> >> > >>>> - (Eric) YARN-7129: Application Catalog for YARN applications.
> >> > >>>> Challenging as more discussions are on-going.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> *Summary of 3.2.0 issues status:*
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> 26 Blocker and Critical issues [1] are open, I am following up
> with
> >> > >>>> owners to get status on each of them to get in by Code Freeze
> date.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> [1] project in (YARN, HADOOP, MAPREDUCE, HDFS) AND priority in
> >> > >>>> (Blocker, Critical) AND resolution = Unresolved AND "Target
> >> > Version/s" =
> >> > >>>> 3.2.0 ORDER BY priority DESC
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Thanks,
> >> > >>>> Sunil
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:30 PM Sunil G <sun...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> Hi All,
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Thanks for the feedbacks. Inline with earlier communication
> dated
> >> > 17th
> >> > >>>>> July 2018, I would like to provide some updates.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> We are approaching previously proposed feature freeze date (Aug
> >> 21,
> >> > >>>>> about 7 days from today).
> >> > >>>>> If any features in branch which are targeted to 3.2.0, please
> >> reply
> >> > to
> >> > >>>>> this email thread.
> >> > >>>>> Steve has mentioned about the s3 features which will come close
> to
> >> > >>>>> Code Freeze Date (Aug 31st).
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> *Here's an updated 3.2.0 feature status:*
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> 1. Merged & Completed features:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> - (Wangda) YARN-8561: Hadoop Submarine project for DeepLearning
> >> > >>>>> workloads Initial cut.
> >> > >>>>> - (Uma) HDFS-10285: HDFS Storage Policy Satisfier
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> 2. Features close to finish:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> - (Naga/Sunil) YARN-3409: Node Attributes support in YARN. Major
> >> > >>>>> patches are all in, only one last
> >> > >>>>> patch is in review state.
> >> > >>>>> - (Sunil) YARN-7494: Multi Node scheduling support in Capacity
> >> > >>>>> Scheduler. Close to commit.
> >> > >>>>> - (Chandni/Eric) YARN-7512: Support service upgrade via YARN
> >> Service
> >> > >>>>> API and CLI. 2 patches are pending
> >> > >>>>> which will be closed by Feature freeze date.
> >> > >>>>> - (Rohith) YARN-5742: Serve aggregated logs of historical apps
> >> from
> >> > >>>>> ATSv2. Patch in progress.
> >> > >>>>> - (Virajit) HDFS-12615: Router-based HDFS federation.
> Improvement
> >> > >>>>> works.
> >> > >>>>> - (Steve) S3Guard Phase III, S3a phase V, Support Windows Azure
> >> > >>>>> Storage. In progress.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> 3. Tentative features:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> - (Haibo Chen) YARN-1011: Resource overcommitment. Looks
> >> challenging
> >> > >>>>> to be done before Aug 2018.
> >> > >>>>> - (Eric) YARN-7129: Application Catalog for YARN applications.
> >> > >>>>> Challenging as more discussions are on-going.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> *Summary of 3.2.0 issues status:*
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> 39 Blocker and Critical issues [1] are open, I am checking with
> >> > owners
> >> > >>>>> to get status on each of them to get in by Code Freeze date.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> [1] project in (YARN, HADOOP, MAPREDUCE, HDFS) AND priority in
> >> > >>>>> (Blocker, Critical) AND resolution = Unresolved AND "Target
> >> > Version/s" =
> >> > >>>>> 3.2.0 ORDER BY priority DESC
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Thanks,
> >> > >>>>> Sunil
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 8:03 AM Sunil G <sun...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> Thanks Subru for the thoughts.
> >> > >>>>>> One of the main reason for a major release is to push out
> >> critical
> >> > >>>>>> features with a faster cadence to the users. If we are pulling
> >> more
> >> > and
> >> > >>>>>> more different types of features to a minor release, that
> branch
> >> > will
> >> > >>>>>> become more destabilized and it may be tough to say that 3.1.2
> is
> >> > stable
> >> > >>>>>> that 3.1.1 for eg. We always tend to improve and stabilize
> >> features
> >> > in
> >> > >>>>>> subsequent minor release.
> >> > >>>>>> For few companies, it makes sense to push out these new
> features
> >> > >>>>>> faster to make a reach to the users. Adding to the point to the
> >> > backporting
> >> > >>>>>> issues, I agree that its a pain and we can workaround that with
> >> > some git
> >> > >>>>>> scripts. If we can make such scripts available to committers,
> >> > backport will
> >> > >>>>>> be seem-less across branches and we can achieve the faster
> >> release
> >> > cadence
> >> > >>>>>> also.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> Thoughts?
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> - Sunil
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 3:37 AM Subru Krishnan <
> su...@apache.org
> >> >
> >> > >>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Thanks Sunil for volunteering to lead the release effort. I am
> >> > >>>>>>> generally
> >> > >>>>>>> supportive of a release but -1 on a 3.2 (prefer a 3.1.x) as
> >> feel we
> >> > >>>>>>> already
> >> > >>>>>>> have too many branches to be maintained. I already see many
> >> commits
> >> > >>>>>>> are in
> >> > >>>>>>> different branches with no apparent rationale, for e.g: 3.1
> has
> >> > >>>>>>> commits
> >> > >>>>>>> which are absent in 3.0 etc.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Additionally AFAIK 3.x has not been deployed in any major
> >> > production
> >> > >>>>>>> setting so the cost of adding features should be minimal.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Thoughts?
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> -Subru
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:31 AM, Sunil G <sun...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> > Thanks Steve, Aaron, Wangda for sharing thoughts.
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > Yes, important changes and features are much needed, hence
> we
> >> > will
> >> > >>>>>>> be
> >> > >>>>>>> > keeping the door open for them as possible. Also considering
> >> few
> >> > >>>>>>> more
> >> > >>>>>>> > offline requests from other folks, I think extending the
> >> > timeframe
> >> > >>>>>>> by
> >> > >>>>>>> > couple of weeks makes sense (including a second RC buffer)
> and
> >> > >>>>>>> this should
> >> > >>>>>>> > ideally help us to ship this by September itself.
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > Revised dates (I will be updating same in Roadmap wiki as
> >> well)
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > - Feature freeze date : all features to merge by August 21,
> >> 2018.
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > - Code freeze date : blockers/critical only, no improvements
> >> and
> >> > >>>>>>> non
> >> > >>>>>>> > blocker/critical
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > bug-fixes  August 31, 2018.
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > - Release date: September 15, 2018
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > Thank Eric and Zian, I think Wangda has already answered
> your
> >> > >>>>>>> questions.
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > Thanks
> >> > >>>>>>> > Sunil
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:13 PM Wangda Tan <
> >> wheele...@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > > Thanks Sunil for volunteering to be RM of 3.2 release, +1
> >> for
> >> > >>>>>>> that.
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> > > To concerns from Steve,
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> > > It is a good idea to keep the door open to get important
> >> > changes
> >> > >>>>>>> /
> >> > >>>>>>> > > features in before cutoff. I would prefer to keep the
> >> proposed
> >> > >>>>>>> release
> >> > >>>>>>> > date
> >> > >>>>>>> > > to make sure things can happen earlier instead of last
> >> minute
> >> > >>>>>>> and we all
> >> > >>>>>>> > > know that releases are always get delayed :). I'm also
> fine
> >> if
> >> > >>>>>>> we want
> >> > >>>>>>> > get
> >> > >>>>>>> > > another several weeks time.
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> > > Regarding of 3.3 release, I would suggest doing that
> before
> >> > >>>>>>> thanksgiving.
> >> > >>>>>>> > > Do you think is it good or too early / late?
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> > > Eric,
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> > > The YARN-8220 will be replaced by YARN-8135, if YARN-8135
> >> can
> >> > >>>>>>> get merged
> >> > >>>>>>> > > in time, we probably not need the YARN-8220.
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> > > Sunil,
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> > > Could u update
> >> > >>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HADOOP/
> >> > >>>>>>> > Roadmap
> >> > >>>>>>> > > with proposed plan as well? We can fill feature list first
> >> > >>>>>>> before getting
> >> > >>>>>>> > > consensus of time.
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> > > Thanks,
> >> > >>>>>>> > > Wangda
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:20 PM Aaron Fabbri
> >> > >>>>>>> <fab...@cloudera.com.invalid
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> > > wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 7:21 PM Steve Loughran <
> >> > >>>>>>> ste...@hortonworks.com>
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > On 16 Jul 2018, at 23:45, Sunil G <sun...@apache.org
> >> > <mailto:
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > sun...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > I would also would like to take this opportunity to
> come
> >> up
> >> > >>>>>>> with a
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> detailed
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > plan.
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > - Feature freeze date : all features should be merged
> by
> >> > >>>>>>> August 10,
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> 2018.
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > <snip>
> >> > >>>>>>> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > Please let me know if I missed any features targeted to
> >> 3.2
> >> > >>>>>>> per this
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > Well there these big todo lists for S3 & S3Guard.
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-15226
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-15220
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > There's a bigger bit of work coming on for Azure
> Datalake
> >> > Gen
> >> > >>>>>>> 2
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-15407
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > I don't think this is quite ready yet, I've been doing
> >> work
> >> > >>>>>>> on it, but
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> if
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > we have a 3 week deadline, I'm going to expect some
> >> timely
> >> > >>>>>>> reviews on
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-15546
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > I've uprated that to a blocker feature; will review the
> >> S3 &
> >> > >>>>>>> S3Guard
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> JIRAs
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > to see which of those are blocking. Then there are some
> >> > >>>>>>> pressing
> >> > >>>>>>> > "guave,
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > java 9 prep"
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >>  I can help with this part if you like.
> >> > >>>>>>> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > timeline. I would like to volunteer myself as release
> >> > manager
> >> > >>>>>>> of 3.2.0
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > release.
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > well volunteered!
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> Yes, thank you for stepping up.
> >> > >>>>>>> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > I think this raises a good q: what timetable should we
> >> have
> >> > >>>>>>> for the
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> 3.2. &
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > 3.3 releases; if we do want a faster cadence, then
> having
> >> > the
> >> > >>>>>>> outline
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> time
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > from the 3.2 to the 3.3 release means that there's less
> >> > >>>>>>> concern about
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > things not making the 3.2 dealine
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> > -Steve
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> >
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> Good idea to mitigate the short deadline.
> >> > >>>>>>> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>> > >> -AF
> >> > >>>>>>> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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