+1 Thanks Sunil
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 3:49 PM Xiaoqiao He <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 for putting 2.9 release lines to EOL. > > Thanks, > Hexiaoqiao > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 3:14 PM Mingliang Liu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> +1 for putting 2.9 lines to EOL. >> >> Let's focus on 2.10 releases for Hadoop 2. Also is there any plan for >> 2.10.1? It has been 11 months since 2.10 first release. >> >> Thanks, >> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:57 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Bump up this thread after 6 months. >> > >> > Is anyone still interested in the 2.9 release line? Or are we good to >> start >> > the EOL process? The 2.9.2 was released in Nov 2018. >> > >> > I'd really like to see the community to converge to fewer release lines >> and >> > make more frequent releases in each line. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Weichiu >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:47 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > I think that's a great suggestion. >> > > Currently, we make 1 minor release per year, and within each minor >> > release >> > > we bring up 1 thousand to 2 thousand commits in it compared with the >> > > previous one. >> > > I can totally understand it is a big bite for users to swallow. >> Having a >> > > more frequent release cycle, plus LTS and non-LTS releases should help >> > with >> > > this. (Of course we will need to make the release preparation much >> > easier, >> > > which is currently a pain) >> > > >> > > I am happy to discuss the release model further in the dev ML. LTS >> v.s. >> > > non-LTS is one suggestion. >> > > >> > > Another similar issue: In the past Hadoop strived to >> > > maintain compatibility. However, this is no longer sustainable as more >> > CVEs >> > > coming from our dependencies: netty, jetty, jackson ... etc. >> > > In many cases, updating the dependencies brings breaking changes. More >> > > recently, especially in Hadoop 3.x, I started to make the effort to >> > update >> > > dependencies much more frequently. How do users feel about this >> change? >> > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 7:58 AM Igor Dvorzhak <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> Maybe Hadoop will benefit from adopting a similar release and support >> > >> strategy as Java? I.e. designate some releases as LTS and support >> them >> > for >> > >> 2 (?) years (it seems that 2.7.x branch was de-facto LTS), other >> non-LTS >> > >> releases will be supported for 6 months (or until next release). This >> > >> should allow to reduce maintenance cost of non-LTS release and >> provide >> > >> conservative users desired stability by allowing them to wait for new >> > LTS >> > >> release and upgrading to it. >> > >> >> > >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:26 AM Rupert Mazzucco < >> > [email protected]> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> After recently jumping from 2.7.7 to 2.10 without issue myself, I >> vote >> > >>> for keeping only the 2.10 line. >> > >>> It would seem all other 2.x branches can upgrade to a 2.10.x easily >> if >> > >>> they feel like upgrading at all, >> > >>> unlike a jump to 3.x, which may require more planning. >> > >>> >> > >>> I also vote for having only one main 3.x branch. Why are there 3.1.x >> > and >> > >>> 3.2.x seemingly competing, >> > >>> and now 3.3.x? For a community that does not have the resources to >> > >>> manage multiple release lines, >> > >>> you guys sure like to multiply release lines a lot. >> > >>> >> > >>> Cheers >> > >>> Rupert >> > >>> >> > >>> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 19:40 Uhr schrieb Wei-Chiu Chuang >> > >>> <[email protected]>: >> > >>> >> > >>>> Forwarding the discussion thread from the dev mailing lists to the >> > user >> > >>>> mailing lists. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I'd like to get an idea of how many users are still on Hadoop 2.9. >> > >>>> Please share your thoughts. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 6:30 PM Sree Vaddi >> > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> +1 >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:12 PM, Wei-Chiu Chuang< >> [email protected] >> > > >> > >>>>> wrote: Hi, >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Following the discussion to end branch-2.8, I want to start a >> > >>>>> discussion >> > >>>>> around what's next with branch-2.9. I am hesitant to use the word >> > "end >> > >>>>> of >> > >>>>> life" but consider these facts: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> * 2.9.0 was released Dec 17, 2017. >> > >>>>> * 2.9.2, the last 2.9.x release, went out Nov 19 2018, which is >> more >> > >>>>> than >> > >>>>> 15 months ago. >> > >>>>> * no one seems to be interested in being the release manager for >> > 2.9.3. >> > >>>>> * Most if not all of the active Hadoop contributors are using >> Hadoop >> > >>>>> 2.10 >> > >>>>> or Hadoop 3.x. >> > >>>>> * We as a community do not have the cycle to manage multiple >> release >> > >>>>> line, >> > >>>>> especially since Hadoop 3.3.0 is coming out soon. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> It is perhaps the time to gradually reduce our footprint in Hadoop >> > >>>>> 2.x, and >> > >>>>> encourage people to upgrade to Hadoop 3.x >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Thoughts? >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >> >> -- >> L >> >
