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Larry McCay commented on HADOOP-12942:
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The problem is that the password to protect the store needs to be protected 
somehow as well.
The only real fix to this issue that I can envision is to have a credential 
server that we authenticate to rather than have a password like this.
Otherwise, we just keep moving the problem.

The environment variable doesn't really work either except for when both sides 
of the equation - the provisioner and the consumer of the secret - can set the 
environment variable without it being exposed in a script, in a file or 
provided on the command line and thus available from things like ps. For 
instance, we provision a password using the CLI or programmatically with the 
API and then it needs to be acquired by a MR job. How does the environment 
variable get set for the MR job? The idea was that setting up the job would 
involve collecting known passwords and moving them into the User provider. 
Again, the code that is setting up the job will need to have the env 
variable....

Until we have a secure credential server, the main protections with the 
keystore credential files are still file permissions. The keystore must be set 
with appropriate file permissions. In addition, it is more or less obfuscated 
with the encryption of the keystore and the default password.

I would love it if you have an idea for something else.

> hadoop credential commands non-obviously use password of "none"
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-12942
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-12942
>             Project: Hadoop Common
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: security
>            Reporter: Mike Yoder
>
> The "hadoop credential create" command, when using a jceks provider, defaults 
> to using the value of "none" for the password that protects the jceks file.  
> This is not obvious in the command or in documentation - to users or to other 
> hadoop developers - and leads to jceks files that essentially are not 
> protected.
> In this example, I'm adding a credential entry with name of "foo" and a value 
> specified by the password entered:
> {noformat}
> # hadoop credential create foo -provider localjceks://file/bar.jceks
> Enter password: 
> Enter password again: 
> foo has been successfully created.
> org.apache.hadoop.security.alias.LocalJavaKeyStoreProvider has been updated.
> {noformat}
> However, the password that protects the file bar.jceks is "none", and there 
> is no obvious way to change that. The practical way of supplying the password 
> at this time is something akin to
> {noformat}
> HADOOP_CREDSTORE_PASSWORD=credpass hadoop credential create --provider ...
> {noformat}
> That is, stuffing HADOOP_CREDSTORE_PASSWORD into the environment of the 
> command. 
> This is more than a documentation issue. I believe that the password ought to 
> be _required_.  We have three implementations at this point, the two 
> JavaKeystore ones and the UserCredential. The latter is "transient" which 
> does not make sense to use in this context. The former need some sort of 
> password, and it's relatively easy to envision that any non-transient 
> implementation would need a mechanism by which to protect the store that it's 
> creating.  
> The implementation gets interesting because the password in the 
> AbstractJavaKeyStoreProvider is determined in the constructor, and changing 
> it after the fact would get messy. So this probably means that the 
> CredentialProviderFactory should have another factory method like the first 
> that additionally takes the password, and an additional constructor exist in 
> all the implementations that takes the password. 
> Then we just ask for the password in getCredentialProvider() and that gets 
> passed down to via the factory to the implementation. The code does have 
> logic in the factory to try multiple providers, but I don't really see how 
> multiple providers would be rationaly be used in the command shell context.
> This issue was brought to light when a user stored credentials for a Sqoop 
> action in Oozie; upon trying to figure out where the password was coming from 
> we discovered it to be the default value of "none".



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