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Steve Loughran commented on HADOOP-15999:
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BTW I like assert statements to always include enough information in messages 
to be able to make sense of the failure without having to look into the source 
code to find the assert and then guess what could be up.


As an example:
{code}
Assert.assertNotEquals(rawFileStatus.getModificationTime(),
   guardedFileStatus.getModificationTime());
{code}

to
{code}
Assert.assertNotEquals("Modification time of raw matches that of guarded 
\nraw=" + rawFileStatus + " guarded=" + guardedFileStatus
  rawFileStatus.getModificationTime(),
   guardedFileStatus.getModificationTime());
{code}

Just imagine that you've seen a jenkins build fail, and all you have is that 
assertion text. What information does it need to have to help you understand 
what has gone wrong?


> [s3a] Better support for out-of-band operations
> -----------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-15999
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-15999
>             Project: Hadoop Common
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: fs/s3
>    Affects Versions: 3.1.0
>            Reporter: Sean Mackrory
>            Assignee: Gabor Bota
>            Priority: Major
>         Attachments: HADOOP-15999.001.patch, HADOOP-15999.002.patch, 
> HADOOP-15999.003.patch, HADOOP-15999.004.patch, out-of-band-operations.patch
>
>
> S3Guard was initially done on the premise that a new MetadataStore would be 
> the source of truth, and that it wouldn't provide guarantees if updates were 
> done without using S3Guard.
> I've been seeing increased demand for better support for scenarios where 
> operations are done on the data that can't reasonably be done with S3Guard 
> involved. For example:
> * A file is deleted using S3Guard, and replaced by some other tool. S3Guard 
> can't tell the difference between the new file and delete / list 
> inconsistency and continues to treat the file as deleted.
> * An S3Guard-ed file is overwritten by a longer file by some other tool. When 
> reading the file, only the length of the original file is read.
> We could possibly have smarter behavior here by querying both S3 and the 
> MetadataStore (even in cases where we may currently only query the 
> MetadataStore in getFileStatus) and use whichever one has the higher modified 
> time.
> This kills the performance boost we currently get in some workloads with the 
> short-circuited getFileStatus, but we could keep it with authoritative mode 
> which should give a larger performance boost. At least we'd get more 
> correctness without authoritative mode and a clear declaration of when we can 
> make the assumptions required to short-circuit the process. If we can't 
> consider S3Guard the source of truth, we need to defer to S3 more.
> We'd need to be extra sure of any locality / time zone issues if we start 
> relying on mod_time more directly, but currently we're tracking the 
> modification time as returned by S3 anyway.



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