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Thomas Graves commented on HADOOP-8368: --------------------------------------- The incompatibility that I would flag is removing the .a files. Or I would suggest putting them back unless there is reasoning to remove. I agree that I don't think the build environment qualifies it as an incompatible change. It would be nice to document though - perhaps in the twikis and BUILDING.txt. It is fairly obvious when the build fails due to cmake missing. > Use CMake rather than autotools to build native code > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Key: HADOOP-8368 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-8368 > Project: Hadoop Common > Issue Type: Improvement > Affects Versions: 2.0.0-alpha > Reporter: Colin Patrick McCabe > Assignee: Colin Patrick McCabe > Priority: Minor > Attachments: HADOOP-8368.001.patch, HADOOP-8368.005.patch, > HADOOP-8368.006.patch, HADOOP-8368.007.patch, HADOOP-8368.008.patch, > HADOOP-8368.009.patch, HADOOP-8368.010.patch, HADOOP-8368.012.half.patch, > HADOOP-8368.012.patch, HADOOP-8368.012.rm.patch, > HADOOP-8368.014.trimmed.patch, HADOOP-8368.015.trimmed.patch, > HADOOP-8368.016.trimmed.patch, HADOOP-8368.018.trimmed.patch, > HADOOP-8368.020.rm.patch, HADOOP-8368.020.trimmed.patch, > HADOOP-8368.021.trimmed.patch > > > It would be good to use cmake rather than autotools to build the native > (C/C++) code in Hadoop. > Rationale: > 1. automake depends on shell scripts, which often have problems running on > different operating systems. It would be extremely difficult, and perhaps > impossible, to use autotools under Windows. Even if it were possible, it > might require horrible workarounds like installing cygwin. Even on Linux > variants like Ubuntu 12.04, there are major build issues because /bin/sh is > the Dash shell, rather than the Bash shell as it is in other Linux versions. > It is currently impossible to build the native code under Ubuntu 12.04 > because of this problem. > CMake has robust cross-platform support, including Windows. It does not use > shell scripts. > 2. automake error messages are very confusing. For example, "autoreconf: > cannot empty /tmp/ar0.4849: Is a directory" or "Can't locate object method > "path" via package "Autom4te..." are common error messages. In order to even > start debugging automake problems you need to learn shell, m4, sed, and the a > bunch of other things. With CMake, all you have to learn is the syntax of > CMakeLists.txt, which is simple. > CMake can do all the stuff autotools can, such as making sure that required > libraries are installed. There is a Maven plugin for CMake as well. > 3. Different versions of autotools can have very different behaviors. For > example, the version installed under openSUSE defaults to putting libraries > in /usr/local/lib64, whereas the version shipped with Ubuntu 11.04 defaults > to installing the same libraries under /usr/local/lib. (This is why the FUSE > build is currently broken when using OpenSUSE.) This is another source of > build failures and complexity. If things go wrong, you will often get an > error message which is incomprehensible to normal humans (see point #2). > CMake allows you to specify the minimum_required_version of CMake that a > particular CMakeLists.txt will accept. In addition, CMake maintains strict > backwards compatibility between different versions. This prevents build bugs > due to version skew. > 4. autoconf, automake, and libtool are large and rather slow. This adds to > build time. > For all these reasons, I think we should switch to CMake for compiling native > (C/C++) code in Hadoop. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira