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Daryn Sharp commented on HADOOP-8779: ------------------------------------- bq. Authorization without authentication or, in other words, allowing access to resources to users without knowing who they really are - doesn't make much sense. But if you call it as "simple auth" instead of "security off", it becomes meaningful. Arguably I am just debating semantics here. No debate, I fully agree it should be considered "simple auth". I used 'security "off"' because it's a misnomer. I look at it as going to a private party and need a key (token) to open the door (service). I can either tell the guard who I am and he trusts me (simple auth) or I can present a secure picture id (kerberos). However I get the key (token), I'm only authorized to unlock certain doors (services) after that point. bq. To address your needs, you can use DIGEST auth-method? Yes. I'm allowing a server configured for simple auth to: # Grant tokens if requested - server currently will not # Validate tokens if presented via sasl DIGEST - sever currently kicks the client out of sasl into simple auth # Continue to allow a simple auth client to only use simple auth in order to preserve backwards compat with older clients > Use tokens regardless of authentication type > -------------------------------------------- > > Key: HADOOP-8779 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-8779 > Project: Hadoop Common > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: fs, security > Affects Versions: 3.0.0, 2.2.0-alpha > Reporter: Daryn Sharp > Assignee: Daryn Sharp > > Security is a combination of authentication and authorization (tokens). > Authorization may be granted independently of the authentication model. > Tokens should be used regardless of simple or kerberos authentication. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira