Compressed OOPs are available now in 1.6.0u14:
https://jdk6.dev.java.net/6uNea.html
- Aaron

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Raghu Angadi <rang...@yahoo-inc.com>wrote:

>
> Suresh had made an spreadsheet for memory consumption.. will check.
>
> A large portion of NN memory is taken by references. I would expect memory
> savings to be very substantial (same as going from 64bit to 32bit), could be
> on the order of 40%.
>
> The last I heard from Sun was that compressed pointers will be in very near
> future JVM (certainly JDK 1.6_x). It can use compressed pointers upto 32GB
> of heap.
>
> I would expect runtime over head on NN would be minimal in practice.
>
> Raghu.
>
>
> Steve Loughran wrote:
>
>>
>> does anyone have any up to date data on the memory consumption per
>> block/file on the NN on a 64-bit JVM with compressed pointers?
>>
>> The best documentation on consumption is
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-1687 -I'm just wondering if
>> anyone has looked at the memory footprint on the latest Hadoop releases, on
>> those latest JVMs? -and which JVM the numbers from HADOOP-1687 came from?
>>
>> Those compressed pointers (which BEA JRockit had for a while) save RAM
>> when the pointer references are within a couple of GB of the other refs, and
>> which are discussed in some papers
>> http://rappist.elis.ugent.be/~leeckhou/papers/cgo06.pdf<http://rappist.elis.ugent.be/%7Eleeckhou/papers/cgo06.pdf>
>> http://www.elis.ugent.be/~kvenster/papers/VenstermansKris_ORA.pdf<http://www.elis.ugent.be/%7Ekvenster/papers/VenstermansKris_ORA.pdf>
>>
>> sun's commentary is up here
>> http://wikis.sun.com/display/HotSpotInternals/CompressedOops
>>
>> I'm just not sure what it means for the NameNode, and as there is no
>> sizeof() operator in Java, something that will take a bit of effort to work
>> out. From what I read of the Sun wiki, when you go compressed, while your
>> heap is <3-4GB, there is no decompress operation; once you go above that
>> there is a shift and an add, which is probably faster than fetching another
>> 32 bits from $L2 or main RAM. The result could be -could be- that your NN
>> takes up much less space on 64 bit JVMs than it did before, but is no
>> slower.
>>
>> Has anyone worked out the numbers yet?
>>
>> -steve
>>
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