I am going to go through these in order - I looked ahead and am fascinated at what the process has become.
Note that is really my interest - while I know nothing of you or the project yet, you are spoken highly of... On 1/9/02 4:17 AM, "Paul Hammant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geir, > >>>> Geir : >>>> Don't you need more active committers? >>>> >>> Some could argue that. Is that a -1 for you then? :-) >>> >> >> If you'd prefer, sure. >> > > I don't of course, just trying tio elicit a vote :-) > >> The point is that we in the midst of a large, active discussion in part >> about how the community is being shaped by adding more and more projects to >> jakarta, and how some strongly feel that it's a shame that we can't get >> people to adhere to 'community conventions'. (Which I personally feel can >> be too loosely defined... But anyway...) >> >> In this case, it's not even a guideline of commons, but one of the rules. I >> don't think we should be so flip about it. >> >> The point of the sandbox is to build/introduce something and see if it as a >> project can get momentum, build a community, get a clear picture if there is >> enough interest behind something to bring to Commons with the expectation of >> success towards a release, not just a 'dressing room...' >> > > I've been watching the discussions, It's all good debate. I'm guilty > of developing something from start to completion (more or less) in about > two weeks *without* a community. Now I was going to do it in > Avalon-Excalibur but then we recieved an invitation to move some widely > re-usable stuff into Commons. I'm faced with two rude options: > > 1) Bring over some Avalon committers and make a community for ARMI. > i.e. gerrymandering. To me, that's cool, if they are really interested. If not, and you are just getting two names to throw on there, then yes, gerrymandering is indeed a good word for it - you can understand why thatıs against the spirit of the commons rules. If it's not, then we should simply alter the rule, as it serves no purpose. > 2) Take it back to excalibur mad just shove it in (where it becomes a > tool amngst many that already have a community). That could work too. > As soon as it is bedded in somewhere permanent, I'll be firing more > components into Avalon-Cornerstone that uses it for general reuse. I'll > then change Avalon-Cornserstone/apps/ftpserver and apps/AvalonDB to > directly use those 'blocks' If it works well with these two, I'll make > representations to the JAMES team to do the same. I'm make some bsh > scripts so that BeanShell can use it, then rest my weary fingers for a > while. It, after a pause of some months, it proves to be working well > Peter Donald (as I pester him) might consider it for an alternative > Kernel for Avalon-Pheonix (alternate as in an extension of the current). > > Advise? About Peter? I don't understand the man myself :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Be a giant. Take giant steps. Do giant things... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>