+1 from here.  This is the type of collaboration that I like to see...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:55 AM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: RE: [logging] consensus about Log interface?
> 
> 
> LOL
> 
> Paulo
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:59 AM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: Re: [logging] consensus about Log interface?
> > 
> > 
> > Wow - almost identical to the Avalon Logger interface.
> > 
> > On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:09, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > > i think it's important to get a consensus since we might have to 
> > > stick with this interface for some time. this is an attempt to
> > summarize what i
> > > think came out of the various threads. it should make it easier
> > for anyone
> > > else who thinks otherwise to make that clear.
> > >
> > > 1. no one else (but me) has any great enthusiasm for making log 
> > > levels internal to commons-logging. so we'll lose that idea.
> > >
> > > 2. commons-logging should not perform any configuration of the
> > underlying
> > > logging system. therefore setLevel() should be removed.
> > >
> > > 3, getLevel cannot be used reliable for anything more 
> than the basic 
> > > levels (ie. debug, info, warn, error, fatal). the behaviour of 
> > > commons-logging (from a component's point of view) should 
> not depend 
> > > on any feature of the logging system which the user chooses. 
> > > therefore getLevel should be removed and isWarnEnabled, 
> > > isErrorEnabled and isFatalEnabled methods added instead. any 
> > > implementation which cannot reliable determine the log 
> level should 
> > > return true for each of these methods.
> > >
> > > - robert
> > 
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Pete
> > 
> > "You know what a dumbshit the 'average man' on the street 
> is? Well, by 
> > definition, half of them are even dumber than that!"
> >                                     J.R. "Bob" Dobbs
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