It's not now that I'm worried about.  It's 3 months from now when that 
active user community is submitting tons and tons of bugs/feature 
requests, and the development community cannot keep up because of 
external time pressures.  That's better managed with more committers.

In any case, I'm only one vote. It's a majority decision, not a concensus.

michael

Juozas Baliuka wrote:
> It is true developer community is not very large, but I think user community
> is not so small,
> and I know they are waiting for release (I know two of them personaly).
> I can add myself to initial committers list, but I do not think it needs
> more committers at this time.
> 
> 
>>-1.  I think there should be more initial committers before it gets
>>moved to commons proper.  One of the reasons for the sandbox is to allow
>>a component to build a community, I don't think the component has a
>>large enough development community yet.
>>
>>regards,
>>michael
>>
>>Waldhoff, Rodney wrote:
>>
>>>The [VOTE] request should really contain a link to the proposal, e.g.,
>>>
>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/net/proposal.html
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Juozas Baliuka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 1:48 PM
>>>To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
>>>Subject: [VOTE] Promote NET to commons proper was Release Plans
>>>
>>>
>>>+1
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Brekke, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "'Jakarta Commons Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 8:15 PM
>>>Subject: RE: [NET] Release Plans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>No I think we should promote and work on those tasks post release.
>>>>Not exactly sure how to start this process, just blast the list with an
>>>>email?  Someone up for it?
>>>>
>>>>=================================================================
>>>>Jeffrey D. Brekke                                   Quad/Graphics
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]                              http://www.qg.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Juozas Baliuka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>>>Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 1:04 PM
>>>>>To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
>>>>>Subject: Re: [NET] Release Plans
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you plan to compete some tasks in sandbox or
>>>>>can we start to vote for promotion ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, I've cobbled together the proposal xdoc from the original
>>>>>
>>>>>NetComponents
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>description and other commons proposal docs.
>>>>>>I've updated the task list and regen'd the site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>=================================================================
>>>>>>Jeffrey D. Brekke                                   Quad/Graphics
>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]                              http://www.qg.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Steve Downey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:05 PM
>>>>>>>To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [NET] Release Plans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My understaning is that it should have a PROPOSAL.html, and
>>>>>>>that is what is
>>>>>>>voted on for the project to become a commons project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's really mostly a cut and paste from one of the other,
>>>>>>>accepted, PROPOSALs
>>>>>>>in commons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I just checked the charter:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>># New packages may be proposed to the Jakarta Commons mailing
>>>>>>>list. To be
>>>>>>>accepted, a package proposal must receive a positive
>>>>>>>super-majority vote of
>>>>>>>the subproject committers. Proposals are to identify the
>>>>>>>rationale for the
>>>>>>>package, its scope, its interaction with other packages and
>>>>>>>products, the
>>>>>>>Commons resources, if any, to be created, the initial source
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>from which the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>package is to be created, and the initial set of committers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  1. The whole number of positive votes needed for a super
>>>>>>>majority is
>>>>>>>calculated by dividing the total number of active subproject
>>>>>>>committers by
>>>>>>>four, multiplying by three, and rounding to the nearest whole
>>>>>>>number (>= .5
>>>>>>>rounds up).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know how many active commiters there are now.
>>>>>>
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