Howdy, >+1, we should recognize someone who spent hours on tomcat-users list and >who know that a 10 minutes developper fix, could produce days and days >of question on user lists.
While I don't have nearly Craig's tenure, nor nearly as many contributions to the code, I spend a lot of time on both the tomcat-user and log4j-user mailing list, answering people's question. I firmly believe making commons-logging any more than what it's intended to be, a thin abstraction layer that can automatically detect the present implementation and use it, will lead to many many more user problems and issues than we see today (and we see enough today). Strong +1 to what Craig said, strong -1 to separate commons-logging-[log4j | jdk14 | whatever] implementation jars. As an aside, we used to have a similar jar versioning system to what someone else is using (one big directory with jars, symlinks to these jars from webapps' WEB-INF/lib directories), and we junked it in favor of WAR distributions. In a heterogeneous server environment like ours, the self-contained, portable WAR distribution is king (or queen? I guess distribution is female..) Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]