Hola,
BTW, I'd be willing to help update/patch/skin our Bugzilla installation, and I bet I'm 
not the only one (hence the CC to infrastructure on this).

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:24 AM
>To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
>Subject: Re: Moving from Bugzilla to JIRA
>
>-1 on moving to JIRA.  Martin Cooper has indicated there are people in
>infrastructure are willing to do a bugzilla upgrade.  Just because
>bugzilla's UI is ugly and JIRA's is pretty is not a valid reason to switch
>to proprietary software in an OSS community.  Regardless, many other
>bugzilla installations including Red Hat's demonstrate bugzilla is
>skinnable.
>
>I can read the Slashdot headlines now: "Apache abandons Bugzilla in favor
>of proprietary software".  IMO, this switch is bad for our community.
>
>David
>
>--- Paul Libbrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'd also be +1 but I am a bit bothered by the political impact of
>> depending on a commercial product as strong open-source veteran.
>> Currently +0.
>>
>> If Bugzilla skins would exist (they are possible) and be used and
>> usable, I think such discussion would be way more futile.
>> Unfortunately, I haven't seen any.
>>
>> As of Scarab, I still haven't managed to get a demo-account to be
>> opened for me on any demo-server... which is not a really good sign, I
>> feel.
>>
>> paul
>>
>> PS: the bugzilla/jira opposition is a real feel for "open-source can't
>> do GUIs" wich is really something a bit too widespread.
>> PPS: I haven't done it but you can export all Bugzilla bugs of one
>> product and only keep the ones for a given component, leaving quiet the
>> bugzilla ones... so the need for a complete migration isn't really
>> there except it takes more time to migrate a single component.
>>
>>
>> Le 3 sept. 04, à 14:24, Henri Yandell a écrit :
>>
>> >
>> > I'd like to be using JIRA rather than Bugzilla. Release planning feels
>> > possible in JIRA, whereas in Bugzilla it always feels like something
>> so
>> > painful it is not worth the effort you'd have to put in.
>> >
>> > In fact, I'm currently using the Wiki to try to simulate the release
>> > process in JIRA :)
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > Hen
>> >
>> > On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, [iso-8859-1] Eduardo Sebastián Marco wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think it should be necessary to have a vote, but I don't think like
>> >> Gary does. I think the matter here is not whether we support
>> >> opensource
>> >> or not... Of course we do! I think the matter here is excelence. And
>> >> in
>> >> my opinion, if there's something actually better and it's avalaible,
>> >> why
>> >> not? Is that or getting involved on the lesser tool to make it
>> better.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Eduardo.
>> >>
>> >> -----Mensaje original-----
>> >> De: Gary Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Enviado el: viernes, 03 de septiembre de 2004 1:59
>> >> Para: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Dion Gillard
>> >> Asunto: RE: Moving from Bugzilla to JIRA
>> >>
>> >> On principle, I am not in favor of moving /away/ from Bugzilla, an
>> >> open-source project, to Jira, a non-open-source project. It feels to
>> >> me that this would send a negative message, as in: we are not
>> >> supporting the open-source community.
>> >>
>> >> OTOH, this is software evolution at work.
>> >>
>> >> I have heard good things about JIRA, but not used it much beyond
>> >> filing a couple of tickets vs. Maven.
>> >>
>> >> Gary
>> >>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Dion Gillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 15:40
>> >>> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
>> >>> Subject: Moving from Bugzilla to JIRA
>> >>>
>> >>> I've found out that the JIRA import process from Bugzilla can only
>> >>> import a whole project, and not components, and hence all of
>> >>> jakarta-commons has to go together.
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone still want to stay on Bugzilla?
>> >>>
>> >>> Do we need a vote for this?
>> >>> --
>> >>> http://www.multitask.com.au/people/dion/
>> >>>
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