I've created the exceptions and I'm now working through the test cases. 

If I summit a patch with the exception testing in a ExceptionTestCase
what's the likelyhood of this being patched? This isn't a question of
style its a question of maintainabilty and now, I'm faced with the
task of weeding out all these try catch statements.

Any objection to a patch with these exception tests moved into a
specialised test case?

Mark

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:23:50 +0100, Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay 2 commons.mail exceptions sounds like an improvement. So the goal
> is to minimise the catch statements the user needs to use, sound
> reasonable. Throwing everything would mean 2 catches, so I can see the
> value in catching once.
> 
> I'll look into a way of having a 1.4+ build option in the build files
> for folk that don't give a gnat's winnit about 1.3 et al.
> 
> Anyone know the default behaviour for the InternetAddress(email,name)
> constructor? Does it adopt the charset from the parent email?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:11:06 +0100, Eric Pugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My take on this is that users of [email] are looking for a package that
> > simplifies the JavaMail api.  And one of the big simplifing aspects is that
> > the Exceptions that they have to catch are minimized.  Most users will
> > probably not care *what* the exception was, only that there *was* an
> > exception, and just pass it up the chain.  For folks who actually have code
> > to deal with the specific exception, then they are either going to use the
> > JavaMail api directly without the extra layer of [email], or we should
> > provide a way for them to retrieve the specific Exception.
> >
> > Hence that is why I propose that we have two types of exceptions:
> > EmailException and RuntimeEmailException.  For common exceptions, we throw
> > an EmailException which is an extension of NestableException and wraps
> > whatever the underlying JavaMail exception was.  This provides a nice facade
> > for people who don't care what the exception was, but allows folks who do to
> > get the underlying exception.
> >
> > The other RuntimeEmailException will extend NestableRuntimeException and can
> > be used for any runtime exceptions in the same manner as EmailException.
> >
> > For the case of the UEE, that would be another exception in the API to
> > throw, which goes against the charter that:
> > "contains a set of Java classes providing a thin convenience layer over
> > JavaMail".   So, in that case, throw the approapriate EmailException and
> > that will wrap the UEE.
> >
> > Mark, is it possible to use the 1.4 io stuff conditionally?  I guess not,
> > but we could think about maybe how we compile the jar?  Our primary target
> > is definitly 1.3 for now though.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:04 PM
> > > To: Commons dev list; Corey Scott
> > > Subject: [email] Exceptions
> > >
> > >
> > > The issue of exceptions has come up a few times, and heres a summary
> > > of my understanding of whats been said and agreed and disagreed about.
> > >
> > > The idea of throwing AddressException is favourable, but not at the
> > > cost of needing to throw UnsupportingEncodingException. When setting
> > > InternetAddress() this throws a UEE and AddressException.
> > >
> > > My position is that without 1.4's new io package there's no means of
> > > checking supported charsets on a given JVM. If the user enters a shady
> > > charset for a email address or name is there anything wrong with them
> > > having a UEE thrown?
> > >
> > > The lightest means of doing this in my opinion is just throw both, its
> > > consistent with the mailapi. It would work on all target JVMs.
> > >
> > > Of course you could just throw MessagingException for everything , "oh
> > > thats what it does". But is this a useful and therefore good thing?
> > > Having  a commons.mail.EmailException was suggested, but does that
> > > have any advantage over throwing AddressException and UEE? I'm not
> > > sure.
> > >
> > > I don't mind summitting the patches, i need to do this for a project
> > > I'm working on at present, so I need to do the work anyway. It makes
> > > sense to submit this to the effort but I don't mind either way.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
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