On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 07:44 +0100, Oliver Heger wrote: > Thanks! > > I somehow had the impression that committers' votes were binding. Will > have a deeper look at the charter.
this is an ASF wide rule so it's covered by the final clause (21). AIUI the theory goes something like this: it's not possible for the ASF to give committers a legal standing within the ASF and so only those with legal standing can cast votes which are binding on the ASF. there are only a certain possible number of ways for people to have legal standing. one these way is by being membership of an official committee. which is one reason why projects have pmc's. so, for all official votes (and in particular releases) those committers who are not pmc members cannot cast binding VOTEs. there are a couple of corollaries; 1. it's important that the transition from committer to pmc'er is a nature step and which happens relatively quickly. anyone who has proved that can be trusted to commit should be worthy of a VOTE. certainly, anyone who is capable of release management should be on the pmc. this is a cultural problem in jakarta dating from the days when the pmc was elected. i'd like to encourage existing pmc'er to start nominating committers: it's not healthy for a few people to do most of the nomination. i see nominating someone as a pmc'er as the end of a process which starts with proposal someone as a committer and then helping them through the first weeks at jakarta. 2. we all need to make bigger efforts to work together in the future especially for official stuff like releases - robert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
