On 3/2/06, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 17:50 -0500, Rahul Akolkar wrote: <snip/> > > > > Is that really the only reason? With [proxy] (and [scxml] as well), > > one of the glaring reasons I see is that they're still in sandbox. We > > *couldn't* release them right now, irrespective of how daunting the > > task of cutting a release may be. I'd say, its different. > > What you can't do is have binaries built from sandbox code then > distributed from the official Apache mirrors. And that seems right to > me; distribution from the official site(s) implies that the project has > passed Apache's tests for quality -- including having a community of > developers trusted by Apache to verify and maintain it. > <snap/>
Yes, I'm aware, and completely agree. > The fact that the code is still in the sandbox implies that the project > has NOT passed those tests. It doesn't mean the code isn't good; it may > be brilliant. However if there isn't a community of existing apache > committers looking at the code, Apache doesn't *know* it's brilliant. > <snip/> ... sure, à la "see the light". > I believe that binaries can still be built from sandbox code and > distributed from your people.apache.org address, and that the sandbox > site can point to that location as a source of "unofficial" binaries. > <snap/> Even better, we have nightlies, thanks to Craig. > If SCXML is factored out of an existing project, then can't you get > half-a-dozen committers from that project to put themselves forward as > commons committers then call for the promotion of SCXML followed by a > release? Approval of existing committers from another Apache project > won't take long, as long as they really are serious about verifying and > maintaing SCXML. > <snip/> Half-a-dozen, such luxuries is Commons talk ;-) You probably need to have been recently active in Taglibs to know what I'm talking about. In any case, based on the growing interest in [scxml] on the CommonsPeople wiki page [1], which currently shows atleast 5 committers interested in [scxml] (in theory or more), I'm happy to give this more time. I probably naively believe that more of us will see its merit, and I plan on staying that way for a while ;-) -Rahul [1] http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/CommonsPeople > Cheers, > > Simon > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]