> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sandy
> McArthur
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:03 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [all] Line width and such minutiae
> 
> On 3/29/06, Jörg Schaible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Phil Steitz wrote on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:27 AM:
> >
> > > On 3/28/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> On 3/28/06, Gary Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > >>>> Of Martin Cooper Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:02 PM
> > >>>> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [all] Line width and such minutiae
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 3/28/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 3/28/06, Phil Steitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> My personal preference is 80 column line widths, partly because
> > >>>>>> this makes diffs readable.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sorry, forgot to add this to the other email.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> For the record, I like 120 column line widths. Java's a verbose
> > >>>>> language, 80 feels cramped. People can print in landscape :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For me, printing is not the issue, side-by-side diffs are the
> > >>>> issue. I hate having to scroll horizontally all the time to see
> > >>>> the actual diffs. That's why I'm with Phil on 80 character widths.
> > >>>
> > >>> This sounds to me like a problem with a particular diff tool. I do
> > >>> not think we should restrict our source code based on the
> > >>> limitations of /one/ tool.
> >
> > Try to use proportional fonts. Ist arted using it years ago and I will
> never go back. So linelength gets somewhat pointless :)
> >
> > >>> For those of us using Eclipse, this is not an issue since the tool
> > >>> (Eclipse) presents a nice user-interface that allows me to focus on
> > >>> the nature of the changes as opposed to the changes and the format
> > >>> the changes are given in.
> > >>>
> > >>> We use 120 at work. I think we got the idea from Jakarata Commons
> > >>> but I cannot find a link right now. Plenty of Commons projects use
> > >>> 120, so the number must come from some previous agreement.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps agreement among some subset of us - the components I've
> > >> worked on use 80 characters. ;-)
> > >>
> > >
> > > The number 80 has numerological properties that imbue the code with a
> > > special quality that obviously only you and I appreciate, Martin.
> > >
> > > Mailers wrapping commit diffs is a sign that we have offended the Gods
> > > when we code "beyond the end of the card" ;-)
> >
> > STOP. We must limit the line length to 76. Any longer line will be
> wrapped by my mailer.
> >
> > :D
> 
> I'd like to formally apologize for any of the times I've been more
> than the 4th person to respond in a thread. Oops I'm doing it now. :-)
> 
> A little more seriously though, the svn-to-email script really could
> use some modernization. We live in an age of mime email and each part
> of commit message really should be it's own mime part of type
> text/x-patch or something. (I don't see an existing patch mime-type:
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/ ) Part of the problem
> something that is more structured than text/plain is being labeled as
> such. This could be a first step to mail clients with built in
> colorized diff view.

I just read about this thing called HTML. Has anyone heard of it?

Gary

> 
> --
> Sandy McArthur
> 
> "He who dares not offend cannot be honest."
> - Thomas Paine
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