On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 12:22:17PM -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> Oleg,
> 
> One problem from my personal point of view is that for JAXWS support
> we need javamail :( to be compliant to the spec.
> 
> -- dims
> 

Davanum,

I understand your position, yet I find it regrettable that JAX-WS
specific requirements dictate architectural decisions for Axiom which is
meant a generic XML processing framework. I also find it regrettable
that Axiom is currently unable to parse and build MIME messages without
buffering the first MIME part (SOAP message) in memory. It may not be a
big problem for a great deal of applications, but for some it certainly
is.

Oleg




> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Oleg Kalnichevski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 10:54:33AM -0500, Thilina Gunarathne wrote:
> >> Hi Oleg,Apologies for been this late to reply...
> >>
> >> There is a little catch that you might need to consider.. Axis2 MIME 
> >> parsing
> >> works similar to StAX. Axis2 MIME parser does differed parsing of the MIME
> >> messages. It parses MIME parts only when needed and requested by the AXIOM
> >> model. Axiom requests the contents of the attachments only when somebody
> >> reads the contents of the corresponding OMText object (not when it creates
> >> the object model). So altogether when using MTOM+ Axiom it's a double
> >> layer differed parsing, differed parsing of XML & differed parsing of
> >> Attachments. But to be honest I'm not sure whether there are any people
> >> taking advantage of this.. One reason for us not use the JavaMail was it's
> >> inability to do differed MIME parsing..
> >> Also Axis2 supports streaming of attachments. That means somebody can
> >> directly stream the attachments stream from the input to the output. This
> >> comes handy when proxying or mediating. This case might become unusable (I
> >> can't really remember how it works now :(.. ) if we read and parse the 
> >> whole
> >> MIME message.. Once again I'm not sure whether people really use it
> >> (Synapse??)..
> >>
> >> All and all I believe the ability to differed parse MIME attachments will 
> >> be
> >> a good feature for MIME4J too..
> >>
> >
> > Thilina,
> >
> > mime4j is perfectly capable of deferred (or on demand) parsing of MIME
> > messages. One can retrieve just the first mime part and then defer the
> > processing of all subsequent parts only when / if accessed.
> >
> > Presently the patch I submitted (WSCOMMONS-387) does not provide support
> > for the deferred parsing, but it should be relatively trivial to add it.
> > However, as no one showed any interest in WSCOMMONS-387 so far I am
> > somewhat reluctant to put any more work into it.
> >
> > Oleg
> >
> >
> >> thanks,
> >> Thilina
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Thilina,
> >> >
> >> > Mime4j parser works similarly to SAX. It is an event based API. One can
> >> > provide a custom handler implementing a particular custom processing
> >> > logic in response to appearance of a certain MIME element in the data
> >> > stream, such as a MIME header or a content part.
> >> >
> >> > Oleg
> >> >
> >> > > thanks,
> >> > > Thilina
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Folks,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Would there be any interest in a SwA implementation based on Apache
> >> > > >> mime4j [1]? Mime4j can handle very complex MIME messages, is
> >> > reasonably
> >> > > >> fast, and, most importantly, can stream complex MIME messages in and
> >> > out
> >> > > >> with a predictable memory footprint (using just a small internal
> >> > buffer
> >> > > >> of a constant length)
> >> > > >> I _personally_ find Java Activation API pretty suboptimal and would
> >> > like
> >> > > >> Axiom to provide an alternative API based on a fully streamable 
> >> > > >> model.
> >> > > >> Let me know what you think.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Oleg
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> [1] http://james.apache.org/mime4j/index.html
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> >> > > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
> >> > http://www.opensource.lk/
> >> > > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
> >> > > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> >> > > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thilina Gunarathne  - http://thilinag.blogspot.com
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com

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