OK, clearly we aren't going to reach a significant majority in favor here, and upon reflection, I don't think this kind of proposal should override more than one or two -1s even if we *had* a ton of +1s.

So I'm for calling it in the negative at this point.

We can consider other alternatives as we continue to discuss. It would be great if people can chime in with more opinions.

--Glen

Paul Fremantle wrote:
I'm currently -1 on this particular vote. I hope that a more
consensual proposal can win my +1.

Paul

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Folks:

Discussion seems to have died down about the TLP proposal, and I think we
heard a lot of valuable viewpoints during the conversation.  At this point,
I think it's time to VOTE on the idea and see where we're at.

I've described what we're voting on on the wiki page [1], and will include
it here as well:

* Restructure Axis2 as an independent TLP, containing subprojects that
*directly* relate to Axis2 - these include all the Modules and Transports.
This ends up being a reasonably sized and well-focused project.

* Once Axis2 is split out, we'll move the "sub-sub-projects" inside
WS-Commons (Axiom, Neethi, XmlSchema) up to be WS subprojects. This will
also involve making sure that the SVN authorizations are appropriately
granular.

* We'll then do a review of the remaining projects inside WS and based on
that, decide whether any further action is needed. Such actions might
include promoting more projects to TLPs, or retiring stagnant codebases.

Please chime in with your VOTE on this (and indicate binding/non-binding
depending on whether you are a PMC member).

Here's my +1 (binding).

Thanks,
--Glen

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/ws/FrontPage/Proposals/Axis2TLPProposal

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