Hi Eusebius,
Ah, indeed. I was wondering why it listed so few new files (the link I
gave earlier). Uploads do indeed not get listed there.
Special:NewFiles does but doesn't allow patrolling, I understand your
request now.
That project definitely needs attention aswell.
I'll see if I can find a way to "patrollise" that.
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Op 8 apr 2010, om 17:08 heeft Eusebius het volgende geschreven:
Hi,
Thanks for your link.
Apparently, this only shows the page creations without upload, like
before a Flickr upload bot action. "Standard" uploads do not seem to
show.
Independently from this, even if a page could list all unpatrolled
uploads, I think it wouldn't be suitable, because (for the patrolled
edit be efficiently applied to recent uploads) a file upload should
be marked as patrolled/unpatrolled independently of the edits on the
file page. Indeed, recent edit patrollers will look for vandalism,
and recent uploads patrollers will look for copyright violations,
bad sources, missing permisions, etc. Depending on the experience
and "patrolling profile" of both kinds of patrollers, patrols can
have very different ("colliding") outcomes. This is why I suspect a
different notion could be justified for patrolled uploads.
Here's what we tried to begin about recent uploads, for info:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Recent_uploads_patrol
Regards,
Eusebius
Krinkle a écrit :
Hi Eusebius,
There is actually something that is 99% like what you are describing:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewPages&hidepatrolled=1&namespace=6
reversed:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewPages&hidepatrolled=1&namespace=6&dir=prev
It's the NewPage-patrol, with the namespace filter set to "File",
which is pretty much always an upload.
(though theoraticly there could be uploads without a page, and a
page without an upload)
Please note that, like any patrollable action the action leaves the
unpatrolled queue automaticly after 720 hours (30 days).
if you like, I could create a checklist-system for this aswell.
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Greetings,
Krinkle
Op 8 apr 2010, om 16:38 heeft Eusebius het volgende geschreven:
Hi,
Thanks for this initiative. On my side I've significantly failed
to build something for recent uploads patrolling.
Is there something like a patrolled upload on MediaWiki? Because
I've always found recent uploads more problematic than recent
edits, and being able to tell between patrolled and unpatrolled
uploads would be GREAT.
Regards,
Eusebius
Krinkle a écrit :
Hi everybody.
First of all, for those of you who haven't been here, or didn't
get the complete picture, here is a short summary of some recent
events:
* Last March, I started the Counter Vandalism Unit on Commons <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Counter_Vandalism_Unit
>
* Later that month, the edit-patrol function was enabled on
Commons <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2010Mar#Marking_edits_as_patrolled
>
* After a Sitenotice, a few users have signed up to be
"patrollers"; and with a small team of 3 to 4 regular patrollers,
we keep a checklist of anonymous edits. <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:ANO#Anonymous_edits
>
The Problem
Vandalism on Commons is a big problem, which generates a large
backlog. Commons is the primary media depository for most media
used throughout Wikimedia. Vandalism on Commons therefore has a
greater likelihood of affecting local projects.
And, this also brings along the source of vandalism: Vandals.
Local vandals are only a click away from Commons. Some don't even
realise they are no longer on the local wiki.
Some, whether or not knowing they've been blocked on a local
project, continue vandalising on Commons.
So, having that said, we are looking for help !
The most important areas, for now, are live watches on IRC or
recent changes, and the Checklists mentioned above.
Live watch
For a long time Commons has it's own cvn-channel on Freenode:
#cvn-commons <irc://irc.freenode.net/#cvn-commons>.
Although there are about a dozen idling users and a bot at any
one time, use of the channel for vandal-fighting is not as
frequent as desired.
Watching live is probably the easiest and most effective way to
fight vandalism.
Also, for those who don't have the time to patrol an entire
daypart-checklist, this is a great way to contribute when they
only have a spare few minutes. One can leave and join at any
time, and click/patrol for all edits that are reported in the
channel.
In comparison to the checklists, the CVN-channel has a couple of
advantages. JelteBot (the recent-changes bot in #cvn-commons)
emphasises edits based on blacklists and watchlists, making it
easier to detect potential vandalism. (If you monitor other
channels too, you could add /Warning!/ to your IRC-stalklist.)
So I recommend the "patroller" right for anybody who wishes to
participate, which you can ask for here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_rights
. Please feel free to join #cvn-commons, or Commons' main channel
#wikimedia-commons, for more information about other ways to get
involved.
Every user in the counter-vandalism channel, watching and
reacting to the stream, reduces the backlog even more.
Watching live means the user can be reverted and warned directly;
s/he will either get blocked if they continue disruption, or (not
unlikely) the vandal will stop when s/he reads the warning.
Doing this live, instead of afterwards, prevents more vandalism,
and thus generate less edits in the backlog.
Checklists
Since it's unlikely (though the impossible goal of Live watch) to
click and patrol each and every link in the IRC channel, lots of
links are missed.
Either because no-one was on watch, or it got lost in the fast
stream of links.
For that, we have the checklists. These contain all unpatrolled
anonymous edits from a certain time frame.
These are, until we have a much bigger team, the primary and most
time-consuming ways of fighting vandalism.
Also, when you can't access IRC, or don't like it for some
reason, the RecentChanges-page is a good alternative:
- <http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hidepatrolled=1&days=1&limit=50&hideliu=1&hidemyself=1
>
If you don't know how this works, check the following links to
get you up to speed:
- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Patrol
- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/
Commons:Counter_Vandalism_Unit (last few headings on File and
Tools)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJXvZ65ttQ4 (short video
tutorial on the CVU)
Then visit the CVU and check out a portion/day-part:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:ANO#Anonymous_edits
Thank you for reading,
Yours,
Krinkle
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