Am I alaone in completely failing to understand what the fuss is about? The image is not pornographic, exploitative, illegal or otherwise inapropriate for featured picture status.
If you want to any keep images off the main page that are "sexy", "pornographic", "offensive" or any other arbitrary label you wish to choose, please start by defining in a neutral, objective and culturally independent manner every such label you want to use. Secondly, please explain how this is compatible with Commons being not censored. Thirdly, please define precisely what it is you are trying to achieve and why. Please do so in an objective and culturally independent manner. Fourthly, explain why this needs to be done with reference facts and evidence. Please explain how this is a cross-cultural issue. Fifthly, please explain how your proposal would help achieve what you are trying to achieve. Please be specific and give facts and evidence. Sixthly, please demonstrate that this is compatible with Common's mission and it will not impact it's goal. If other policies need changing please repeat steps 4 and 5 for each such policy. Seventhly, gain consensus for your proposal. So far in this debate the only thing I've seen is vauge statements that boil down to "we should not have images of female toplessness on the main page because there is a gender gap", "My grandfather wouldn't like it" and "Think of the children" The second two of these are "I don't like it" reasons and deserve no further consideration. None of them make any attempt at points 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, or 7. The first reason "because there is a gender gap" doesn't explain why this is relevant to the image. Commons has featured pictures that will be offensive to many different people in many different cultures. Please explain why this is any more an issue for this image than http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Starved_girl.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Namibie_Himba_0720a.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sandboarding_in_Dubai.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sadko.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:William-Adolphe_Bouguereau_%281825-1905%29_-_The_Wave_%281896%29.jpg or any other image you care to mention. Please explain how your comments are neutral and take into account the sensitivities of all cultures and special interest groups, not just your own. Chris ---- Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
