Andreas, i would like to ask you not to spam or canvassing votes against (or pro) this image. You have your opinion and this topic is 190 e-mail long (190 mails in 4 treads, in 3 mailing list). After all that attention i believe everyone knows your (and many other people) opinion. _____ *Béria Lima* <http://wikimedia.pt/> (351) 925 171 484
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.*** 2011/5/17 Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@yahoo.com> > --- On Tue, 17/5/11, Chris McKenna <cmcke...@sucs.org> wrote: > > > From: Chris McKenna <cmcke...@sucs.org> > > Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia > Commons > > To: "Wikimedia Commons Discussion List" <commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > Date: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011, 15:04 > > On Tue, 17 May 2011, Andreas Kolbe > > wrote: > > > The images from today and yesterday are: > > > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Turbo_imperialis_01.jpg > > > > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg > > > > > > If you are unwilling to recognise the difference in > > terms of educational vs. > > > artistic content, nothing I say is likely to make any > > difference. Frankly, > > > it's not even worth discussing. > > > > > > > "Featured pictures are images that the community has chosen > > to be > > highlighted as some of the finest on Commons." Both today's > > and > > yesterday's main page images are featured pictures. > > > > I am not making any judgement regarding educational or > > illustrative > > content, (both images are equally usable for educational > > purposes, albeit > > different ones) other than if two images are recognised to > > be of the same > > standard ("featured status") then they should be treated as > > having equal > > value to the project. If we want to treat artistic and > > illustrative works > > differently then we need separate standards to judge them > > by (instead of > > or as well as "featured status", I can see arguments for > > both). If we want > > to say that some featured pictures are more valuable to the > > project than > > others then we need some other status for one or other of > > the groups. > > > This never was justifiable as a featured picture to begin with. As it was, > it scraped through in Commons 8:2:2, > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg > > with support comments that don't make a good case at all, and failed to > attract support in German Wikipedia: > > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kandidaten_f%C3%BCr_exzellente_Bilder/Archiv2011/1#On_the_edge_.E2.80.93_2._Januar_bis_16._Januar_-_Contra > > > > Yesterday there were calls that we should not be featuring > > the work of > > non-notable Wikimedians full stop. Today were are featuring > > the work of an > > equally non-notable Wikimedian and there are no calls for > > the image not to > > be shown on the main page on these grounds. > > > There were no calls to stop featuring work of non-notable Wikimedians. If > we > did that, almost all photographs of buildings, plants, mountains would be > disqualified. The actual point is quite different. > > Commons does not host original art by non-notable Wikimedians that does not > have an obvious educational use. That is Commons policy. Commons is not for > fan art; DeviantArt is the right place for such images. > > Even if you disagree with me and assert that the image does have > educational > value, featured picture criteria require notability (nope), high artistic > merit (nope), high illustrative merit (nope, this is an independent work of > art, rather than an illustration of anything pre-existing), or high > historic > merit (nope). > > Andreas > > _______________________________________________ > Commons-l mailing list > Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l >
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