+1 On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> wrote: > +1 Mark, > > I would have thought this was pretty plain – it’s a global practice in > business and I’d be surprised if people who have stood on boards and other > such things hadn’t seen this fairly often, its enshrined in every company act > I’ve ever read. > > It’s the same way with shareholder meetings – a shareholder may give a proxy > to someone. > > A member may issue a proxy and that person then 100% represents the person > who gave it to them. > > Andrew > > > > On 28/09/2016, 20:08, "Mark Elkins" <m...@posix.co.za> wrote: > > > > On 28/09/2016 15:20, Badru Ntege wrote: > > Ultimately percentage of members is the logical and sustainble way to > > achieve a representative outcome. However this opens another > > question when it comes to “representative” and actual votes. > > > > We need to explore a way that also addresses actively engaged member > > views. The current system is open to some kind of abuse where > > through the use of proxies, votes are cast on behalf of members who > > might not even have a clue about what the vote is all about. > > If I give my Proxy to someone - then I am implicitly trusting that > person - including their judgement/discretion on things I might not be > 100% sure about. If I give them instructions and they fail to follow > them, my issue is with them, no one else. > > Often, proxies will actually state how the "owner" wishes to vote on > certain (pre-defined) topics - i.e. - accept the current auditors for > another year. > > If you don't trust a person to use your proxy wisely - don't give it to > them. I really don't see the problem. > > > We have all noticed this in previous elections so I think we need to > > start putting our minds round how to find a solution. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/28/16, 8:55 AM, "Dewole Ajao" <dew...@tinitop.com> wrote: > > > >> Is hard-wiring the numbers really a good idea as opposed to a > >> percentage (of something or the other)? > >> > >> Just thinking of a way to fix the quorum even if active membership > >> were to double in a year or two. > >> > >> Dewole. > >> > >> > >> On 28/09/2016 07:58, Alan Barrett wrote: > >>>> On 26 Sep 2016, at 22:00, Alan Barrett > >>>> <alan.barr...@afrinic.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 26 Sep 2016, at 18:22, Douglas Onyango > >>>>> <ondoug...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Alan, > >>>>>> The current quorum requirement is 10 members, which is too > >>>>>> small, but I think 10% is too large. > >>>>> Perhaps AFRINIC can share with us statistics on member > >>>>> attendance in the past 5 years. We can normalize this data > >>>>> and can use something like the lowest or average number of > >>>>> members present to prescribe a pragmatic number for our > >>>>> quorum requirement. > >>>> Sure, I can get those numbers. > >>> Here are the number of votes cast during recent Board elections. > >>> The number of on-site votes gives a good idea of the number of > >>> members who attended the meetings. > >>> > >>> 2013 2014 2015 2016 E-Votes 58 59 49 > 183 On-Site Votes 45 > >>> 66 77 62 TOTAL 103 125 126 245 > >>> > >>> Given these attendance figures, I suggest a quorum requirement of > >>> 30 resource members in the future. > >>> > >>> Alan _______________________________________________ > >>> Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ Community-Discuss > >> mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Community-Discuss > > mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > > > -- > Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa > m...@posix.co.za Tel: +27.128070590 Cell: +27.826010496 > For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: https://ftth.posix.co.za > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
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