haahaaa, am not sure :-).
But I guess to me 'legitimate aims' may vary country by country. But most
countries would define these legitimate aims around the 'National Security'
umbrella. Which ties into the second point - is it covered/prescribed in law?
So as long as the country has negotiated how and when to shut down their
communication services/Internet, and backed this up that in their Acts of
parliament then AfriNIC has no business getting involved, however crude that
law maybe :-).
The last point 'necessary and proportionate' ensures that such shutdowns if
they must happen are moderated in terms of duration, coverage or service type.
At the end of the day we can say most governments are never right when it comes
to shutdowns, but that is not the same as assuming that Afrinic policies will
always be right on internet shutdowns.
There must be shared checks and balances often brokered by courts of law.
walu.
From: Ali Hussein <a...@hussein.me.ke>
To: Walubengo J <jw...@yahoo.com>
Cc: Ish Sookun <ish@lsl.digital>; General Discussions of AFRINIC
<community-discuss@afrinic.net>; rpd <r...@afrinic.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy
discussed at RIPE
@Walu
What, pray is Legitimate Aim'? :-)
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On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Those lawyers dealing Internet rights suggest that Internet rights could be
violated only if the following three conditions apply:
a) The shutdown must serve legitimate aimb) The shutdown is
supported/established by (domestic or international) lawc) The shutdown is
necessary and proportionate.
walu.
From: Ali Hussein <a...@hussein.me.ke>
To: Ish Sookun <ish@lsl.digital>
Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net >; rpd
<r...@afrinic.net>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy
discussed at RIPE
Ish
Protests are an expression of freedom of association and speech. Shutting down
the Internet because people are protesting is unjustified. The very Governments
that are elected by the people should be responsible to the people. I can see
where in some extreme (really extreme) circumstances where shut downs maybe be
necessary. However, mechanisms MUST be put in place from the onset to justify
such. And this must be a Multi- Stakeholder Consensus Building Mechanism where
NATIONAL SECURITY is truly in jeopardy.
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On 15 May 2017, at 9:37 AM, Ish Sookun <ish@lsl.digital> wrote:
Hi Ali,
On 14/05/17 19:43, Ali Hussein wrote:
I've been following this discourse for a few days and I'm getting the feeling
that no one in the community is supporting a shut down right?
I would not say no one is supporting a shutdown. The discussions on the
RPD list prompted that some found it justified for the government to
shut down the internet because of riots & protests. I am not saying
whether they are right or wrong, but merely citing what I read from the
list.
Regards,
Ish Sookun
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