Do I need to remind you its not about the numbers, I'm in an exam room with >200 student do you want me ask them to send +1 for 2 Marks. (Just a hypothetical example I will never do that, but others may see nothing in acquiring support in such a way and call for that off-list).
Dr. Sami H.O. Salih Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST Head of R&D, NTC, SUDAN President of SDv6TF T/F: (249)122045707/187171355 ________________________________ From: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 3:12 PM To: Sami Salih; Ahmed Fadl; wafa Dahmani; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: RE: AFRINIC Borad Elections It won’t be read that way? Well – the very fact that this email landed up on the list seems to imply otherwise – and the communications I’ve had off list – also seem to imply otherwise. Jordi’s email (though Jordi can speak for himself!) also seems to imply that he believes this email portrays itself as an abuse of position. So – won’t ever? Errrrr I see at least 3 instances in the last few minutes ?? Andrew From: Sami Salih <sami.sa...@outlook.com> Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:10 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>; Ahmed Fadl <ahmed.f...@57357.org>; wafa Dahmani <wafatn7...@gmail.com>; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: AFRINIC Borad Elections I'm sorry too to ask you read my email again, as stating the level of engagement is necessary for me to show how the sender are interested and participated in the community and who she has the needed knowledge about the individuals who are deserve to be elected. Stating the committees she is involved in will never has o be misunderstood as what you claim (But some people may need to read/think carefully before making any assumptions). and I'm sorry again to tell you that your fair questions is trivial -sorry if its not a good word I'm not native- the answer is NO. Dr. Sami H.O. Salih Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST Head of R&D, NTC, SUDAN President of SDv6TF T/F: (249)122045707/187171355 ________________________________ From: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:53 PM To: Sami Salih; Ahmed Fadl; wafa Dahmani; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: RE: AFRINIC Borad Elections Sorry Sami, But I fundamentally disagree with you. When you use your position on community based bodies that are meant to maintain a position of neutrality to lobby in this manner – and state that it is “part of our strategy” – without specifying who – it implies that the strategy is that of one of the organizations that you signed for. My problem with this email is NOT that lobbying was done – that is part and parcel of how elections (which are by nature political) occur – my problem is the implications of the representations made in this email – not just in the signature either – and the reference to “our strategy” – which could be read to imply a wider group with a specific strategy that is involved in an attempt at organizational capture (though I will not go so far as to say that this last implication is actually accurate) If you lobby for a candidate – you either do so on your own behalf – or you do it at the behest of your employer or another group – and when the email is signed in the way that it is and prefixed the way that it is – it very definitely carries implications – and hence me asking if this is actually the position of those bodies – I want clarification from THEM as to their position vis-a-vie this email – and it is a fair question to ask – particularly when one of those bodies has to be in a position of total neutrality because they deal with appeals. Thanks Andrew From: Sami Salih <sami.sa...@outlook.com<mailto:sami.sa...@outlook.com>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:47 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>>; Ahmed Fadl <ahmed.f...@57357.org<mailto:ahmed.f...@57357.org>>; wafa Dahmani <wafatn7...@gmail.com<mailto:wafatn7...@gmail.com>>; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: AFRINIC Borad Elections Salam, I see this email sent to individuals to support/campaign for some nominators (I'm not in agreement with all proposed names) who are among the public slat of AFRINIC candidates, IMHO any one is free to campaign. The undersigned signature represent the level of engagement of the sender in the community and gives the recipient more confident about her selection to the benefit of the community. This is too far from sponsoring youth and educate them in a way that may push them to support/oppose something. My personal signature as SUST employee did't mean my view i this email represent SUST! BR Dr. Sami H.O. Salih Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST Head of R&D, NTC, SUDAN President of SDv6TF T/F: (249)122045707/187171355 ________________________________ From: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:28 PM To: Ahmed Fadl; wafa Dahmani; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections This email raises so many questions. While as I have clearly stated – I do not have ANY problem with anyone lobbying on behalf of candidates and their beliefs – however – I have serious issues when other groups that are meant to be neutral start doing this. As such, I need some clarity based on the signatures of the email. 1. Is this email representative of the ASO /AC ‘s view 2. Is this email representative of the combined view of the AFRINIC Appeal committee – and how does that align with the neutrality that is meant to exist in such a committee. 3. Is this email representative of the views of Global IGF? I really hope not – but – I have to ask – since that is what the email was signed as. Thanks Andrew From: Ahmed Fadl <ahmed.f...@57357.org<mailto:ahmed.f...@57357.org>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:15 To: wafa Dahmani <wafatn7...@gmail.com<mailto:wafatn7...@gmail.com>>; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Hi Wafa, Thanks for your email. I, among other members of AFRINIC in Egypt, received the following email from you many times. I wondered at that time why should I vote for these candidates specially for those in Eastern and Southern regions while each one was the sole candidate in his region. I quote this from your email "Ladies and Gentlemen, in the context of our strategy ...." what is your strategy and who are you ? If you are talking about biasing the community, So, do you consider your email as a "member of the appeal committee; ASO / AC excom member and Ex Chair of Governance Committee '(GC) at AFRINIC." fall under what ? I sent this mail many time but I don’t know why I can’t find this mail on community Thanks, Ahmed Fadl From: wafa Dahmani [mailto:wafatn7...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:05 PM To: wafa Dahmani <wafatn7...@gmail.com<mailto:wafatn7...@gmail.com>> Subject: AFRINIC Borad Elections Dear, My name is Wafa Dahmani from Tunisia, an active member of the African community and more specifically AFRINIC: member of the appeal committee; ASO / AC excom member and Ex Chair of Governance Committee '(GC) at AFRINIC. I contact you to solicit your votes for the following candidates: Board of Directors: North Africa (seat 1) * Habin Youssef West Africa (seat 2) * Ly Ousmane South Africa (seat 5) * Mpisane Vika William East Africa (seat 6) * Nkusi Robert Ford Non-regional (seat 7) * Eshun Benjamin Adzenyamebeye Election Number Resource Organization Number Council * Mustapha Ben Jemaa Election Policy Development Working Group * Komi Elitcha * Sami Hassan Election Governance Committee * Daniel Nanghaka Ladies and Gentlemen, in the context of our strategy and in order to preserve AFRINIC's interests for Africa and to be able to choose the right candidates for North Africa in the long term, it is desirable to join all our efforts and vote for these candidates who presents the best choice for an adequate board the de facto vote online through your interface with AFRINIC is very simple for all categories except the policy development Working group where we want you to mobilize your teams on the spot to vote for our candidates We strongly solicit your support Thank you Wafa Dahmani member AFRINIC Appeal Committee Global IGF MAG member ASO / AC excom member
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