Dear All,

I have read the report and acknowledge that this is a great report and
provides appropriate action points to be considered.

Kind Regards
Daniel K. Nanghaka
ᐧ

On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 10:42, Sami Salih <sami.sa...@outlook.com> wrote:

> Thank you Internet Society’s Africa, and Thank you Dawit and Michuki,
> This is what we expected from ISOC and from you as real Africans who
> really cares about the stability of this continent.
>
> Few points I would like to highlight as follows:
>
> 1) The Board can never viewed as part of any problem (I prefer use issues
> instead) if and only if we (I will always use WE as we are one community)
> increase the level of transparency. However, increasing transparency DID
> NOT mean to disclose everything. While I personally support disclosing the
> methodologies use to take decisions, I believe this is to be evaluated by
> the board its self to decide on the information to be share with members,
> community, etc. Overall, the board needed to build a trusted relationship
> with the community.
>
> 2) Engagement is always good thing, semi-annual meeting with one of them
> organized with AFNOG and accommodate Af* is what we practices for a while.
> Is this enough or not is not easy to judge by simply take individual views
> in such session. We need to consider that over-engagement will negatively
> affect the organization not only in term of financial cost but also the
> cost of the stability of running the organization, as we need to give
> board, staff etc a peaceful environment to act and innovate. Substantially,
> engagement is a two way process, let us see how we can encourage the other
> parts (than AFRINIC) to initiate engagement initiatives.  ;-)
>
> 3) Enforce the CC is an urgent requirement not only the personal attack
> but other hostile activities against the organization and its stability.
> This is not an easy task, I experienced this during my long term as PDWG
> Co-, with the population of the community and the diversity of individual
> and the groups while taking into consideration the number of contributions
> especially before and after the meeting, its really difficult to moderate
> the list in a way that satisfying the community and reflect a better image
> of the glob. We need to tolerate some and stickily avoid/mitigate/prevent
> or even ban unacceptable locution. This is again a big dilemma as
> continuous monitoring and instant judgement not an easy task to be
> achieved. The better way in my perspective is to count on the community
> maturity to tolerate and ignore bad things posted in an angry moment.
> In this regard, I propose to have a dedicated group or sub-group may be
> under Governance Committee to enforce CC in the mailing list and during the
> meeting and other sessions.
>
> 4) The  legal interpretations and other bylaw issues can't be discussed in
> such details during open mic, only specialists in a small dedicated group
> can provide useful contributions and suggested the way-forward. As you can
> notice different views and different wishes are expressed at the end only
> specialist can enlightening and guide the community to respect the local
> laws and maintain the spirit of the bottom-up system for RIRs.
>
> 5) In page (3) please remove/rephrase this sentence "....  vote on policy
> proposals. ..." cos its not accurate.
>
> 6) I would also propose that the Nomination and Election processes to be
> conducted by the governance committee, or at least they need to set a clear
> rule and procedure for those sensitive activities.
>
> Once again I would like to thank Dawit and Michuki for this detailed
> report and their observations and proposals.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> *Sami H.O. Salih, PhD., PMP*®
> Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering,
> Sudan University of Science and Technology,
> sami.sa...@sustech.edu
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:51 AM
> *To:* community-discuss@afrinic.net <community-discuss@afrinic.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Report of the
> AFRINIC Open Mic Session on June 20
>
> Good work, Mich and team!
>
> Mark.
>
> On 23/Jul/19 22:30, Noah wrote:
>
> Dear Dawit and Michuki
>
> Thanks you so much for this report and having read through it, I find it
> very accurate as it covers the accounts of the said deliberations. We hope
> all stakeholders will consider the content of the report and act upon it.
>
> Looking forward to more engagement and collaboration.
>
> Cheers
> Noah
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Dawit Bekele* <bek...@isoc.org>
> Date: Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 12:40 PM
> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Report of the AFRINIC Open Mic Session on June
> 20
> To: AfrICANN Community List <afric...@afrinic.net>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> As you might remember, AFRINIC board asked Michuki and I to moderate the
> open mic discussion after the board meeting on June 20. We accepted the
> request and moderated the meeting as best as we could. With some delay, we
> have prepared a report of the meeting that we would like to share here
> (attached). We focused on reporting on the issues raised rather than
> providing detailed minutes of the discussion.
>
> Please let us know if there is any inaccuracy so that we make corrections
> before submitting a final version.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Dawit Bekele and Michuki Mwangi
>
> Internet Society
>
> African Regional Bureau
>
>
>
>
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