i think we should fellow due processes to address issues as a  community. 
AFRINIC has policies and legal framework that we are aware, so we should comply 
with when we want to address any concern. My take.Yusif Sent from my Samsung 
Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: AFRINIC Communication 
<co...@afrinic.net> Date: 20/12/2020  8:05 a.m.  (GMT+00:00) To: 
community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [afnog] Updates 
on the misappropriation of
  IPv4 resources [Version en français au bas]Dear AFRINIC Community,AFRINIC is 
governed by certain processes, PDP policies and legal frameworks that we need 
to comply with as an organisation. We can only act within the established 
framework or the ramifications could be extremely damaging. Access to the bulk 
whois data is granted once anyone who requires the data fully completes the 
process published 
at:https://afrinic.net/support/general-queries/how-can-i-request-for-bulk-whois-data
 We welcome any information provided on the misappropriation of Internet number 
resources. However, as mentioned above, at this stage, we are unable to comment 
on what we know or do not know regarding the information shared. We trust that 
once we are able to publish the audit report, it will bring clarifications to 
the community's concerns on the misappropriation of Internet number 
resources.RegardsAshil Oogarahon behalf of AFRINIC Communications and PR 
Team…………………………………………………………..Chère Communauté d'AFRINIC,AFRINIC est régie par 
certains processus, politiques et cadres juridiques que nous devons respecter 
en tant qu'organisation. Nous ne pouvons agir dans ce cadre établi, sinon les 
conséquences pourraient être extrêmement dommageables. L'accès aux données 
whois est accordé une fois que toute personne ayant besoin de ces données 
complète le processus publié 
àhttps://afrinic.net/support/general-queries/how-can-i-request-for-bulk-whois-data
 Toute information sur la manipulation non autorisée des ressources numériques 
Internet est la bienvenue. Toutefois, comme mentionné ci-dessus, nous ne sommes 
pas en mesure, à ce stade, de faire des commentaires sur ce que nous savons ou 
ne savons pas concernant les informations partagées. Nous espérons qu'une fois 
que nous serons en mesure de publier le rapport d'audit, il apportera des 
éclaircissements sur les préoccupations de la communauté concernant la 
manipulation non autorisée des ressources numériques internet.RegardsAshil 
Oogarahau nom de l'équipe Communications et RP d’AFRINIC> On 20 Dec 2020, at 
04:20, Ronald F. Guilmette <r...@tristatelogic.com> wrote:> > In message 
<9a35ce76-e056-4547-b7fd-52696c5c7...@darwincosta.com>, > 
"d...@darwincosta.com" <d...@darwincosta.com> wrote:> >> @Mr. Ronald I was 
reading your email and findings over and over again yesterday>> night and this 
morning... Thank you very much for bringing all of this into>> our attention 
and YES - we "will" or "have">> to do whatever it's necessary to revert this 
situation and to ensure>> that AFRINIC returns to AFRINIC as it should be.> > 
Thank you for yor support.> > I suppose that it should be apparent to all that 
I am upset and angry> about many of the things that have gone on within the 
AFRINIC region.> But the various IP block thefts themselves are, to my way of 
thinking,> the least of it all.> > Quite some time ago now, Eddy announced to 
everyone that AFRINIC was> going to be performing an exhaustive audit of all 
AFRINIC WHOIS changes,> back to the beginning of time, with the intent 
obviously being to ferret> out any -more- instances of questionable IPv4 
allocations, above and> beyond those that I and journalist Jan Vermeulen 
already brought to> light last year (2019).  Eddy even said that technical 
personnel and> representatives of one of the more senior RIRs (APNIC) were 
being> brought in to help with this effort.> > That was many MANY months ago 
now.  (Also, as I'm sure many of you know,> Ernest's malfeasance has been known 
about by the AFRINIC Board and> management for over an entire calendar year 
now.)> > So this raises the obvious question:  Why didn't Eddy and the Board> 
already know about the apparent connections bewteen the AFRINIC IPv4> 
allocations held by Mr. Abizeid and Mr. Mehta long long before my> posting the 
other day about those?  And if they did know, then why did> they elect to give 
both Mr. Abizeid and Mr. Mehta a pass, allowing> them both to *keep* the 
sizable AFRINIC IPv4 allocations that appear> to have been provided to them... 
presumably in fundamentally crooked> transactions... by the now disgraced and 
long ago terminated ex-employee> Ernest Byaruhanga?> > It has to be one or the 
other.  There is no third possibility.> > Either Eddy & the Board knew, and 
elected to do nothing and keep silent,> or else their much heralded "exhaustive 
audit" of the history of all> AFRINIC allocations was so fundementally flawed 
and incomplete that> it failed to catch obviously questionable allocations of 
great swaths> of AFRINIC non-legacy IPv4 address space, totaling well over a 
million> IPv4 addresses.> > I'm not sure which of these two possibilities is 
worse.  Either the> so-called "audit" was done in a glaringly incompetent 
manner, or else> Eddy and the Board have been complicit in trying to sweep 
under the> carpet the questionable nature of the sizable AFRINIC IPv4 
allocations> held by -both- Mr. Abizeid -and- Mr. Mehta... neither of whom is 
either> located in the AFRINIC region, and neither of whom, it appears, is> 
providing -any- services whatsoever within the AFRINIC region.> > I look 
forward to Eddy and the Board clarifying when they learned about> the apparent 
connections between the IPv4 holdings of Mr. Abizeid and> Mr. Mehta and the 
fradulent "ITC" fake corporation that for years served> to hide so many of the 
thefts of Ernest Byaruhanga.> > If Eddy and the Board only learned about those 
connections from my public> posting of a couple of days ago, then maybe it is 
time, at long last, for> them to grant me access to the historical AFRINIC 
WHOIS information that> I have been repeatedly requesting for more than a year 
now, so that I can> perform a proper sort of audit and analysis of those 
records.> > On the other hand, if they are none too pleased with me having been 
able> to find and expose the many AFRINIC WHOIS anomalies that I have already> 
managed to find and expose... even with very limited WHOIS access... then> I 
guess they will continue to want to keep me as far away as possible> from any 
historical WHOIS information, above and beyond what all ordinary> 
man-on-the-street netizens are privy to.> > > Regards,> rfg> > > P.S.  I am 
more than a little inclined to believe that Eddy and the> AFRINIC Board do want 
to, and have wanted to just sweep these matters> under the carpet, as much as 
possible.  My belief is based on the> fact that Eddy & The Board have quite 
clearly made a decision...> privately and without even having the courtesy of 
informing the> AFRINIC membership... to allow the crooks, Mr. Uerlings & Mr. 
Cohen,> to keep any and all of the legacy IPv4 address blocks that they had> 
successfully stolen, and for which no rightful owner has showed up to> 
protest.> > The result has been an inconsistant hodge-podge with things only> 
partially set right.  The City of Cape Town, the commercial South> African firm 
Columbus Stainless, the South African state-owned oil> company, Sasol, and 
others have all managed to get their legacy> IPv4 blocks back from the clutches 
of the fraudsters, Mr. Cohen and> Mr. Uerlings, simply by showing up to assert 
their rightful claims.> > Other legitimate legacy block holders have, 
unfortunately, been either> too lazy, too confused, or too timid to even assert 
their rights,> and this has allowed Eddy and the Board to simply ignore those 
rights> as a matter of expediency.  This is not a shining example of either> 
honor or courage on their part.  It is rather a capitulation to criminals,> and 
an abdication of their responsibilities to act in the best interests> of the 
AFRINIC members and community.> > Giving in to corruption only leads to even 
more corruption.  And frankly,> I remain surprised that this simple fact is not 
by now better understood> and appreciated through the African continent.> > 
Eddy and the Board can and should stop their silent charade, tell the> members 
what they have decided to do, or not do, about the various stolen> AFRINIC 
legacy blocks that to this day remain stolen and in the hands of> messers 
Uerlings & Cohen, and they should be prepared to defend their> decisions in an 
open forum.> > The global reputation of AFRINIC has already been buffeted by 
repeated> public scandals in recent years.  Repairing that global reputation 
cannot> even begin as long as the AFRINIC Board and management are still 
hiding> their decision making process behind the same closed doors that 
protected> Ernest Byaruhanga and his criminal machinations from public view for 
so> many years.> > _______________________________________________> afnog 
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