John’s question was answered well before he asked it.

Owen


> On Aug 22, 2021, at 10:28 , Marcus K. G. Adomey <mado...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Owen, 
> 
> You have not. Asking for petition before you provide the answer is your way 
> to answer specific questions? Be honest and provide the answers. Don't forget 
> to answer the question (Y/N) from John too.
> 
> 
> 
> Marcus
> 
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> From: Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 5:20:52 PM
> To: Marcus K. G. Adomey <mado...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: Sylvain Baya <absc...@gmail.com>; General Discussions of AFRINIC 
> <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; Brian Sowers <b.sowers...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC 
> RUNNING
>  
> I have answered all questions that have been asked. Your failure to read the 
> answers is not my
> responsibility.
> 
> Owen
> 
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 10:19 , Marcus K. G. Adomey <mado...@hotmail.com 
>> <mailto:mado...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Owen,
>> 
>> Stop your diversionary tactics and provide answers to questions asked you.
>> 
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>> From: Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <community-discuss@afrinic.net 
>> <mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 5:06:20 PM
>> To: Sylvain Baya <absc...@gmail.com <mailto:absc...@gmail.com>>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net 
>> <mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>>; Brian Sowers <b.sowers...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:b.sowers...@gmail.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC 
>> RUNNING
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 01:07 , Sylvain Baya <absc...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:absc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear AfriNIC's Community,
>>> 
>>> Please find my comments below, inline...
>>> 
>>> Le ven. 20 août 2021 à 17:36, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss 
>>> <community-discuss@afrinic.net <mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> a 
>>> écrit :
>>> I am confused… How is a question about consent an attempt to kill AFRINIC?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Owen,
>>> ...brother, thanks for you email.
>>> 
>>> Please add the context; then you'll become less confused :'-(
>> 
>> No, with the context, I still do not understand how a simple question 
>> constitutes an attempt
>> to kill an RIR. Indeed, I find that it is people who are resistant to the 
>> idea of questioning an
>> organization that are most likely to lead to said organizations demise or 
>> worse, its
>> descent into corruption and malfeasance.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Is AFRINIC so fragile that it cannot withstand a simple question of its 
>>> consent
>>> 
>>> 
>>> AfriNIC needs to be defended these hard times and it appears that some of 
>>> us 
>>> are doing very well *our* common duty (protecting our RIR against 
>>> 'predators') 
>>> as a *community*. (You should have been proud of them :'-()
>>> 
>>> ...i found it admirable! and i wouldn't like to cross their way; while they 
>>> are 
>>> defending AfriNIC...not you? Feel free to continue to defend your champion, 
>>> though...
>> 
>> >From my perspective I am attempting to defend AFRINIC and it’s member base
>> and community from a staff and board which are determined to violate the
>> rules as written.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> and cooperation in a process initiated by third parties allegedly on its 
>>> behalf?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Question already answered here [1]! please let's know if it isn't enough 
>>> for you.
>> 
>> I didn’t say that the question wasn’t adequately answered. I questioned the 
>> person
>> who characterized the asking of the question as an attempt to kill the RIR 
>> for that
>> act.
>> 
>> 
>>> I would think not. If it is so fragile, then there are much bigger problems 
>>> than its financial state.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Owen, could you, please, elaborate a bit more on the above?
>>> ...i can not wait to hear what you are predicting for the Future of AfriNIC 
>>> [6] 
>>> and of the RFC7020. Please, be examplarily transparent :'-(
>>> Don't run away!
>> 
>> Because of my current role, I cannot further comment on the ongoing legal 
>> battle at this time.
>> 
>> I predict errata will be filed against RFC-7020 because it claims to 
>> document the current state
>> of the RIR system at the time of writing and the statement that global 
>> providers universally deal
>> with multiple RIRs has incorrect implications and is not entirely accurate. 
>> There are plenty of
>> global networks that deal with a single RIR and even those that deal with 
>> multiple RIRs do
>> not necessarily deal with the RIR for each and every region where they 
>> operate.
>> 
>> There is widespread use of addresses from every RIR in other regions, 
>> including a lot of address
>> space in use within Africa that is issued by ARIN, RIPE, and APNIC.
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
> 

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