Awesome. Thanks Erik. You're like a pillar of the Java side of Apache
and I mean that.
And you write a nice book too ;-)
-Andy
Erik Hatcher wrote:
Count me in for providing whatever assistance I can spare for helping
Tapestry join Jakarta. Just ping me and let me know what if anything
I can do to help.
Erik
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Mr Ship,
I totally disagree with Pier's statement (and you'll find many here
will feel the same as I on this). The opinion of Tapestry joining is
very good.
Realize Apache is more like a confederation than anything. So
different people feel
differently. We're still ironing out a new process as Pier said,
however most folks I've
spoken to have felt that the Apache voting rules must be adopted as a
first step not
later. Dion and I have both committed to helping you with this
transition (though I don't
think he ever stated so publically...Dion?). And I'll be happy to
subscribe to the tapestry
list if you desire and help you build the structure.
The steps as I see them:
1. Adopt apache voting rules
2. Vote to join and relicense (in one swoop)
3. Submit a formal proposal
4. You're in
The challenges ahead are:
1. Apache: figure out what the procedure is that you will join under
(my position is it doesn't matter as long as things are relaxed
on you because we wanted
to try something out and that things aren't full of extra
hurdles because the procedure is
in transition)
2. Tapestry: Find your voting committers, reorganize yourself into a
meritocratic structure
3. All: Patience and due dilligence.
Me & Dion
1. Find a sponsoring member
2. Assist you in reorganizing
3. Assist you in your propoasal
4. Make our case
5. Assist you in getting your sources/structures here.
Thats as clearly as i can lay it out. Hopefully others will chime in
constructively and clear up anything I got wrong or is fuzzy ;-)
-Andy
Pier Fumagalli wrote:
On 26/10/02 15:01, "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So, this went out about a week ago, and the guidelines only cover
as far as
publishing a proposal on the Jakarta General List. What is the
next step?
So far, I haven't seen any real negative responses, and a lot of
positive
ones (I think a lot of ex-WebObjects folks are lurking about :-)).
I could
summarize in more detail if that would be helpful. Obviously, the PMC
hasn't really weighed in. Again, what next?
Not being a committer to any of the Jakarta projects, and not being
a PMC
member, I can't say much on this, but from a general feeling that I
gather
from different parts of the foundation, I would say that _right_now_
the
timing is not that great because of the "big reorg" going around ASF
wide.
But the decision is left to the Jakarta committers and PMC members...
Pier
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