Ted Husted wrote:

On Jakarta, we have a sample letter that can be sent to Contributors when we are ready to nominate them as Committers. It occurred to me that we should also have a follow-up letter welcome them as a Committer. This would be a good place to insert some of points that have come up over Reorg and Community lately.

Please see the updated page at <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html> for a sample "Dear (new) Committer" letter.

The letter refers to a "Newbie Committer FAQ". I did not link in the newbie FAQ, since I thought it warranted a second by a current member of the Jakarta PMC.

The proposed Newbie FAQ can be viewed at <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newbie.html>.

It also occurs to me that something the incubator project can do is provide a template set of guidelines and procedures for the projects. In the way of guidelines, we have a draft set that includes several "clarifications" , in case anyone in the incubator project is interested in this idea.

<http://jakarta.apache.org/site/proposal.html>



There is some good stuff here - a lot of clarification over and above the current Jakarta procedures.

There are some questions detailed below:

 > If a Committer believes the explanation for a veto is
 > invalid, an affirmation of the veto can be requested.
 > If some other Committer does not affirm that the
 > explanation for the veto is valid, the veto shall be
 > void.

 What is the timeframe within which the affirmation is
 required?  To be consitent with the other caveats, perhaps
 a 5 day ceiling would be appropriate?

 > If a dispute over a veto becomes intractable, the PMC
 > may consent to arbitrate the matter, and, if appropriate,
 > rescind the veto with a 3/4 majority vote of the PMC
 > members.

 3/4 majority seems too high - typically a 3/4 majority is
 reserved for things like modification of the procedures
 whereas 1/2 is used for establishment of concensus of the
 PMC on a subject dealing with the property of the PMC.

Aside from the above - I like the document a lot (with just a
sneaking suspision thet the voting procedures read more like
a series of amendements and could possibly do with some sort
of refactoring of the current content).  I'm willing to
provide whatever help I can.

Cheer, Steve.

-Ted.




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